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**TheAznInvazn** · October 20th, 08:40 PM

Once they're working, they shoot nice

I've seen one or two, and they shoot fine
Maybe if their that finicky, it would be better to get the Mini?

Baraka444 · October 20th, 10:17 PM

You know I've always wondered, Why does this forum hate the G3 so much?

Everywhere else praises It for being cheap but reliable and almost equal to a higher end gun. The worst things I've heard about It Is that some of the reg seats break very easily, and the lever On/Off ASA shreds It's O Rings constantly.

**TheAznInvazn** · October 20th, 10:19 PM

Older batches were made with cast parts, and sometimes the eye cover screws would bend in the cast metal eye plates in far enough to tear bolt orings
Kicks super hard for a spool (not sure if they fixed that)
BAD efficiency
a bit too expensive for the performance IMO

Baraka444 · October 20th, 10:26 PM

Wouldn't that mean that the newer ones would be made a bit better?
That's a lot like the Mini, when It first came out It was horrible but now It's just a little different.

It's weird how there's a big gap of paintball gun's In the 300$ to 400$ range, I guess nothing can be made good at that price.

**TheAznInvazn** · October 20th, 10:30 PM

The mini was actully alright in the beginning though, all you had to do was send it in and get a new one that worked
G3 not so much

And their lasting bad first impression has stuck on some people (namely us PBF'ers)
i've seen some nice shooting G3's, but wouldn't risk getting one myself

Baraka444 · October 20th, 10:36 PM

Funny because It used to be 400$ then they quickly decreased It to 300$. I was just wondering because when I figure out what I'm going to do with my problem, I might get a new gun and around 300$ Is my price range.

So I guess the G3 Is out of the question, I do see a ton of people with Mini's at my field and they all happen to be little kid's. Is the Mini really that small that you have to have tiny hands? I've never actually held one.

***Db0ne*** · October 20th, 10:38 PM

i have big hands and it's fine.
In some positions it might be weird but overall its acceptable

**TheAznInvazn** · October 20th, 10:39 PM

No, but they apparently feel better for small players
I know the back player on my team is like a 200lb guy and he shoots a Mini

We call him Biggie Smalls

***Riddler236*** · October 20th, 10:43 PM

Maybe I'm not the most unbiased person as my scenario team is sponsored by DP. But then again, they haven't given me anything personally. I bought a Threshy used, in fact, earlier this year.

So with that disclaimer noted, I will say that, throughout this past season, we had 5-10 DP markers at most scenario games (depending on turnout) and at the Pgh leg of the UWL, and honestly, not a single one has had any issues other than regular minor routine maintenance (clean, lube, fresh batteries, maybe an o-ring).

Of course efficiency isn't great; it's a spoolie - 1300-1400 from a 68/4500 is about average. The Threshy/Rev-i do a bit better with regard to efficiency, as do obviously the poppet-based F7/F8.

The guns really don't have much kick - a G3 kicking is generally an indicator of an HPR up too high or a user that needs his hand slapped away from the dwell settings when he doesn't know what he's doing. DP did replace the reg seat, too, for better performance and less vulnerability to user error. They will send the replacements out for free. The newer ones are red-colored, the old ones are gray.

Yes, the standard G3 was made with some cast parts. Other than being cast aluminum versus milled, I'm not sure what the problem is. If someone's putting enough torque on an eye cover for it to bend/crack, I think it's irrelevant whether it was cast or milled - the person is an idiot.

As for price, I guess that's subjective. I think it's very competitive at $300.

Baraka444 · October 20th, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAznInvazn

No, but they apparently feel better for small players
I know the back player on my team is like a 200lb guy and he shoots a Mini

We call him Biggie Smalls

Yeah I read about that on your site, I always wondered what gun he used.

***Riddler236*** · October 20th, 10:48 PM

To continue my thoughts on DP markers, my only real gripe is that, other than the Rev-i, the boards are meh. Most have optical sensors that don't have the crispest trigger feel, and the dip-switch adjustments and lack of ability to reflash/reprogram/edit modes make the boards feel a bit dated. Reliability is good, but the boards are just standard fare otherwise.

Baraka444 · October 20th, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riddler236

To continue my thoughts on DP markers, my only real gripe is that, other than the Rev-i, the boards are meh. Most have optical sensors that don't have the crispest trigger feel, and the dip-switch adjustments and lack of ability to reflash/reprogram/edit modes make the boards feel a bit dated. Reliability is good, but the boards are just standard fare otherwise.

Yeah but now you can get a G3 with a free Ape board, and they have a Virtue for It to. I'm not sure If It's already out yet but they also have the Virtue OLED for It, but that's sort of overcomplicated for a gun like that.

There are a ton of triggers for It to If I'm correct, the Virtue board with a CP trigger have been quite a popular choice.

***Riddler236*** · October 20th, 10:58 PM

Overkill to buy a $180 board for a $300 marker, yeah.

Though I might have to buy another Threshold for the Seventh Element board/trigger combo they released this month for $89. LOVED my Threshold; my only gripe was the board/optical trigger.

Baraka444 · October 20th, 11:21 PM

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Overkill to buy a $180 board for a $300 marker, yeah.

Though I might have to buy another Threshold for the Seventh Element board/trigger combo they released this month for $89. LOVED my Threshold; my only gripe was the board/optical trigger.

I just looked up that board and trigger combo, that's pretty cheap for the two. So you think for 350$ a Threshold Is much nicer than the G3? Or even the Mini?

**TheAznInvazn** · October 20th, 11:26 PM

While I'm not saying that the G3 is bad now, I do know that the first run was HORRIBLE

They may have upped the quality, but I just don't want to deal with the G3
Still get some random posts on PBN about someone's G3 not working, and I don't want to be another unlucky one

***Db0ne*** · October 20th, 11:30 PM

I would want to wait to see if the new g3 will be priced at the same price and any good. It has some neat features like a oringless bolt and a better board.

Baraka444 · October 20th, 11:42 PM

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I would want to wait to see if the new g3 will be priced at the same price and any good. It has some neat features like a oringless bolt and a better board.

Yeah but the O Ringless Bolt Is sort of just extra and you can already get a free Ape board, what about a new and improved regulator though.

***Riddler236*** · October 20th, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka444

I just looked up that board and trigger combo, that's pretty cheap for the two. So you think for 350$ a Threshold Is much nicer than the G3? Or even the Mini?

Everything's personal preference.

But with that said, I do prefer the Threshy over the G3. The couple extra ounces of metal is more than offset by what I find to be a smoother and more efficient platform.

**Trbo323** · October 21st, 11:45 AM

one comment on the g3, i was out playing some woodsball with a few friends this weekend, one of the guys that showed up had a g3, to be honest i was not impressed with it at all, fairly loud and mechanical sounding, he also was having issues getting it shooting because of the cold humid weather, my mini on the other hand (first time i was shooting it) got it out, never had a problem all day.

just make sure its a gen 2 mini and thats that i would do (well did i guess)

tlmiller · October 21st, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Riddler236

Everything's personal preference.

But with that said, I do prefer the Threshy over the G3. The couple extra ounces of metal is more than offset by what I find to be a smoother and more efficient platform.

Also better QC on the Threshy. The G3 was an anomoly for DP, a very poor performing, poorly engineered, poor QC'd marker.

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