Best Gun for me? - Paintball Forum - Paintball guns and gear forums
Reply

Old February 10th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
iTsAdamG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 58
Best Gun for me?

Hello everyone I'm new to the forum, thought it best related under this if not my bad, anyways I have been playing on and off and played 2-3 times a week during the summer and fall. I mainly used a Spyder Fenix 2012, Tippman A5, and a X7. So I really do not have a price range for a marker but here are my drawbacks I am not a pro at tearing a gun apart and cleaning it yet. Same with repairs and upgrades. So I am looking for something simple that really doesnt need to be upgraded such as boards triggers and etc. I play both woods and speed ball. I also have another question best tank? I have a ninja but its just a 48/3000 aluminium. I want something I can use in the snow and the heat, carbon fiber? fiberglass?

Sorry if I had posted in the wrong section and I also read other threads before making this one felt like most people said the G6R was best but is that still for me?

Also I am a noob when it comes to paintball terms please be clear.
Thank you (:
iTsAdamG is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old February 11th, 2013, 03:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
huckduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,474
if u liked the fenix. stick with the fenix. it is a great place to start.

if you don't know how to take a marker apart, the g6r is a horrible place to start.
huckduck is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 08:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
Rambo
 
heavygunner29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sudbury, On
Posts: 42
i would stick with the gun your best with, i could use a better gun but i choose to use a spyder Electra, sometimes a Tippmann bravo one tactical, remember it's not about the gun it's about the person. if you really want a better gun i would try some out, see what fits you best and then research it a bit before you buy, it is normaly pretty easy to learn how to clean guns and as for upgrades stores will sometimes put them on and you could always ask someone that's been playing longer to help you out.
good luck
heavygunner29 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 12:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 14,728
ya if you are happy with the fenix no reason to find something else.

cold weather really only effects CO2 but a 4500psi tank would be a nice upgrade if you want to as it will hold about 3x as many shots

what hopper and mask are you currently using?
__________________
The ultimate new player guide!

^^^If you are new, click here^^^

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, that makes a firearm better makes a paintball marker worse. They are 2 very different worlds with nothing except a trigger in common


Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
iTsAdamG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 58
My fenix is alright when its good its amazing but when it goes down she goes down, my current mask is the VForce Grillz which I absolutely love and as a hopper I have a Empire Halo Too, but I am looking to upgrade to Dye Rotor whenever I get a new gun. I also have a 14 in CP barrel. I want something with more kick that will shoot at a greater distance with power and accuracy. I have been looking at the DP Fusions which I really like but have not tried one. But I will upgrade to a 4500 CarbonFiber eventually.

I just learned by watching youtube vids on how to take apart and clean my guns.
iTsAdamG is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 08:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
I'm out of creativity.
 
martix_agent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 24,387
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTsAdamG View Post
I want something with more kick that will shoot at a greater distance with power and accuracy.
Noting will shoot faster or further. 300fps is 300fps, no matter what it shoots out of.
Quote:
I have been looking at the DP Fusions which I really like but have not tried one.
stay away from dangerous power. They are quite unreliable and finicky.
__________________
martix_agent is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 08:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
Elite Member
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 12,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTsAdamG View Post
I want something with more kick that will shoot at a greater distance with power and accuracy. I have been looking at the DP Fusions which I really like but have not tried one. But I will upgrade to a 4500 CarbonFiber eventually.

I just learned by watching youtube vids on how to take apart and clean my guns.
There is none. Exit velocity (which is safety governed) decides distance. Paint you shoot decides accuracy. Want better accuracy? Buy better quality paint. Doesn't matter if you shoot a $50 Talon or a $1500 Luxe, crap paint = poor accuracy, perfect paint = extremely good accuracy.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:
Pics of my current markers.

Pics of my current barrels.

Pics of my loaders.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
iTsAdamG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 58
Well with my velocity on my Fenix its not consistent at all, at my field outdoor it has to be set at 280, but they let up to 295s go some refs anyways. I have tried playing around and adjusting it and its just all over the place and I use HPA. Also the paint can not be outside paint we have to buy their's which is like 47$ a case if your a member and 54 if your not. It's decent paint. I have seen many guns shoot way more consistent than mine. I have shot about 25 cases through it as well. I love my Fenix 2012 its a cheap gun turned out to be decent for me I do beat mini's, dps, and gog's with it. If it was consistent with FPS I would not need to look for any other gun.
iTsAdamG is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
I'm out of creativity.
 
martix_agent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 24,387
I'll give you that. Spyders aren't exactly consistent. It's just they way they're built.
__________________
martix_agent is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
Rambo
 
heavygunner29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sudbury, On
Posts: 42
Haha I wish I could get field paint that cheap, round here where I play it's close to $140 a case, that's why I don't play much, I wish I could just bring a 50 dollar case of Walmart paint but then again i don't want idiots shooting frozen paint at me, (and yes I have seen people firing frozen paintballs, I think he got banned from the field luckily) anyways yea I can definetly see where your coming from with the consistency problem, (I use a spyder as well) As for a marker to fit your style, the Zenith, by Azodin looks cool, but apparently that's all they have going for them and they really aren't worth the money, the rail by dye is $300 and looks to be pretty good however I haven't used it so I'd ask someone who has. I really couldn't think of any in that style that is in the $180-$250 dollar range. It seems like you would just have to take a bigger step and invest in a more expensive one. Unless of course you are willing to move into a more woodsball style like tippmann in which case there would be tons of good ones out there and they are very customizable. I'd check out the ultimate new player guide to Markers masks tanks and more by Trbo323, there is lots of good info on markers in the 0-500 dollar range on there, and plus you might find something else you want on there too, best of luck. Oh and btw I'm pretty sure the dye guns won't run co2
heavygunner29 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2013, 11:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 14,728
may want to try rebuilding the regulator if you are having a large spread in velocity, also replace the hammer o-ring and the spring may help. you would also be surprised what a good clean and oil job can do

while a STBB will never be super consistent if you are seeing a spread of around +/-20 there probably are a few things you should look into
__________________
The ultimate new player guide!

^^^If you are new, click here^^^

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, that makes a firearm better makes a paintball marker worse. They are 2 very different worlds with nothing except a trigger in common


Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 12:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
Elite Member
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 12,103
Azodins and Tippmanns will have the same problem as the Fenix in that they're spring propelled hammers opening a valve. Springs are NOT as consistent as a pneumatic ram (under general circumstances, they can be made to be), and so blowbacks will tend to not be as consistent as those markers that have pneumatic operations.

Very little to nothing above blowbacks will work on co2.

As far as the lower end of markers, I would take a Valken Proton/Mokal Aura (same marker different milling/trigger/board) over a Proto Rail, but the Rail isn't a bad marker at all. I'd take them both over a Mini, and the Mini over a DP G3/4/5, E1. I'd avoid the Gog Envy/Xtasy/whatever just out of the fact that it's the Gardner brothers, nothing to do with the marker itself. I think that covers the $300 markers that can be had brand new for my personal tastes.

Used, I'll still recommend a FEP Quest.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:
Pics of my current markers.

Pics of my current barrels.

Pics of my loaders.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 06:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlmiller View Post
Azodins and Tippmanns will have the same problem as the Fenix in that they're spring propelled hammers opening a valve. Springs are NOT as consistent as a pneumatic ram (under general circumstances, they can be made to be), and so blowbacks will tend to not be as consistent as those markers that have pneumatic operations.

Very little to nothing above blowbacks will work on co2.

As far as the lower end of markers, I would take a Valken Proton/Mokal Aura (same marker different milling/trigger/board) over a Proto Rail, but the Rail isn't a bad marker at all. I'd take them both over a Mini, and the Mini over a DP G3/4/5, E1. I'd avoid the Gog Envy/Xtasy/whatever just out of the fact that it's the Gardner brothers, nothing to do with the marker itself. I think that covers the $300 markers that can be had brand new for my personal tastes.

Used, I'll still recommend a FEP Quest.
I followed the advice I received on here and purchased an OG Quest. I now also own a Critical Quest. These markers are very VERY easy to maintain. Only 3 different o-ring sizes and easy to take a part and clean. Get a 4B bolt kit and be one of the most efficient markers on the field. If you want to try a Quest, I still have my OG Quest,CP barrel kit, Dye Rotor and some other gear I can make you a pretty good deal on.
Syphr is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
iTsAdamG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 58
@Heavygunner29 140 a case thats outrageous wow? But yeah I will do some research Zenith & Rail and I'm open up to 1000 on a marker but I think I need to break into it more, I was really into Dp's Fusion FX but you guys suggested to stay away from them Ive heard good things from DP's at my field but yeah and I don't use CO2 I use HPA. I am about 60 woodsball and 40 "speedball" I go into the small speed field with wood objects not the balloons. (always been intimidated by the guys with matching jerseys and guns)
Will do research on Proto Rail and Zenith
I do own a Tippman A5 as well and like it but my father uses that most of the time.

@Trbo323 Before last time I went paintballing I cleaned her up very well and oiled the Orings looked fine I had received the gun prior to that because something was wrong with the regulator and also one of the O-ring went out by the regulator. I will though tear it apart again and check it out

@tlmiller thanks I will do research on the Valken Proton & Mokal Aura
iTsAdamG is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
dprimmy
 
Posts: n/a
Far as consistency goes - I found that +/-7-11 was about as good as things got with a stock Blitz.

If you're seeing much more than a 10 FPS swing in either direction, try replacing your velocity screw o-ring & the striker o-ring.
View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 06:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 14,728
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTsAdamG View Post

@Trbo323 Before last time I went paintballing I cleaned her up very well and oiled the Orings looked fine I had received the gun prior to that because something was wrong with the regulator and also one of the O-ring went out by the regulator. I will though tear it apart again and check it out
the problem is you can not tell what kind of shape the o-rings are by looking at them (unless they are REALLY bad that is) bolt o-rings especially can cause what you are seeing where sometimes they will create a good seal and sometimes they will not creating very inconsistent velocity. regulators are the same way, if the regulator is putting slightly different pressures into the marker each shot that can be causing it as well

o-rings are cheap, something like a 5x rebuild kit is typically under $10 and having spare o-rings is always a good idea. if it has been a while just do a full rebuild replacing all of the o-rings, clean it, oil it and chances are that will help your velocity issue
__________________
The ultimate new player guide!

^^^If you are new, click here^^^

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, that makes a firearm better makes a paintball marker worse. They are 2 very different worlds with nothing except a trigger in common


Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
Rambo
 
heavygunner29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sudbury, On
Posts: 42
I didn't realize you had that much to spend on a gun, as for the paint prices I was talking about yea they definetly aren't cheap, if you don't believe they cost that much go to Dodge This Paintball Sudbury Ontario, Canada and click field, scroll down to paint prices, $140 a case, and it really isn't amazing paint normally either. anyways off topic, as for a gun I don't know lol you lost me personally at like the $500 dollar mark, It's amazing how when your serious about any kind of sport involving guns you never seem to have enough cash to buy everything you want, mainly because you want EVERYTHING
heavygunner29 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
Elite Member
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 12,103
Yeah, at that price the sky's the limit. You could have just about anything from about 2 years ago used, or 90% of stuff only a year or so old used.

I'd still stick to my original suggestions though. Why spend more than you absolutely have to unless you're:
A. Going to be playing tournaments and have to shoot xxx marker due to sponsorships
B. Want to show off
C. WHORE.

Yup, I'm C.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:
Pics of my current markers.

Pics of my current barrels.

Pics of my loaders.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
iTsAdamG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 58
Alright after looking into it I like the Valken Proton and the Proto Rail Reflix 2013. It's a 175$ difference what do you guys think? I also looked into an AXE might be a possibility. But I will tear apart my Fenix, clean it, new Orings, lube it, and readjust the velocity.

That's crazy @heavygunner atleast it drops down to 70 a case if your a member right?

I would like to thank you all for the tips and suggestions let me know what you guys think about my "final" gun choices.
iTsAdamG is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old February 13th, 2013, 12:06 AM   #20 (permalink)
Elite Member
Image Hosting by Picoodle.com
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 12,103
I will take the Proton over the PRR every time. PRR nice, Proton just as nice, lighter, simpler internal design, macroless (this is a plus for me, Trbo dislikes macroless usually) and cheaper.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:
Pics of my current markers.

Pics of my current barrels.

Pics of my loaders.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2