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**Tough N Scrappy** · January 1st, 12:30 AM

Hey guys I am just wondering which gun out of these is the best: Diablo Mongoose LCD, Phsyco Ballistics Silver Bullet, Spyder Imagine 04, or the 32 Degrees Rebel 02 Xtreme Electronic. They are all about the same price and I have to select between these options and I want to know which one you guys think is the best.
Thank you

**Hcker** · January 1st, 01:00 AM

All the guns you listed are basically all just spyder clones, except the Spyder Imagine which is a real spyder. It's basically all personal preference between all those. Though, I would go with the Spyder Imagine, because to me its the best one out of the bunch. A lot more aftermarket parts can also be modded into an Imagine. Such as the new Kingman ACS Anti-Chop Delrin Bolt, theres
also the new t-board that can be modded in to the Imagine. So overall, I would say go with the Imagine, your way better off in the long run.

-Hcker-

**Tough N Scrappy** · January 1st, 01:04 AM

Well what about between the Imagine and the Diablo Mongoose...are they bassically the same? Cause I really want the Diablo Mongoose, is there any thing diff between the two beside the fact that the Imagine can be upgraded really easy?
THanks

**spyder person** · January 1st, 10:31 PM

no the mongoose isthe spyder under a different name basically go with the real deal and get the spyder

**ToridXFast** · January 1st, 11:19 PM

i personally wouldnt get any of those save up and get somthing better but if your on a budget like alot of us get the spyder and slowly upgrde it andway its personal prefs.

**Tough N Scrappy** · January 2nd, 12:31 AM

Well how about this, i want an auto cocker now and im thinking of getting an Trilogy Competition, or a Trilogy Sport cause they are cheap and they are autocockers. Are they any good? If so which should I get? Thanks

**MrMacDude** · January 2nd, 12:52 AM

I would not suggest a cocker as a first gun.
It takes a little paintball knowledge to keep one in working condition. Your best bet, in my opinion, is to start out with a tippmann, or spyder.
Upgrade them a little, get up to speed with matainence habits, learn more, then make a higher end marker decision.
I know some people with trilogys, and they are certainly solid markers. I just don't think its agood first gun.

I'm not sure why you talked yourself out of an imagine, they are a great gun to start out with.

***Barber*** · January 2nd, 12:54 AM

Get the imagine.

Or find a classic mag for cheap. Old mags are the easiest guns ever.

**Tough N Scrappy** · January 2nd, 12:32 PM

Well isnt an auto-cocker better than an electric? I still dont fully understand the diff. (sorry guys im an airsofter coming to paint ball please excuse my n00bness)

**Xtreme DYE** · January 2nd, 05:21 PM

dont get the mongoose

**Tough N Scrappy** · January 2nd, 09:53 PM

ok but im thinking of a cocker...arnt they better than the electrics? and what is the difference?

**MrMacDude** · January 2nd, 11:29 PM

man, this is a general question, but i guess ill try to field it.
"the electrics" is a very wide range of guns. That could include mongooses, and angels.

Autocockers are a class of guns, just like "sypders" or "mags" or "angels." There is much variety in each of these classes, but the overarching concepts remain the same within the classes.

Autocockers are better than some electros, but not as good as others.
There are also electric autocockers.

An electro uses an electric switch to fire the gun.
An electropnuematic uses solonoids (a special kind of electric air "dispenser")
A mechanical gun, is well, mechanical.

I suggest you do some reasearch into prospective guns before you make a decision, its kind of hard to learn everything you should know before buying a gun from a simple thread like this.

If you have any more questions, however, ill do my best to try and answer.

**sjabbs** · January 3rd, 01:15 AM

yeah what I think it comes down to is mongoose or imagine. I have happen to shoot both of them and they are relatively the same. The mongoose did have some velocity issues and IMO the imagine looked better. Ive said this before on a similar question, all the markers are spyder clones, so why not get the real thing? i would get the imagine only because my friend ended replacing his mongoose with an a-5. hope this helps.
-sj

jtpaintballer31 · January 3rd, 08:02 PM

imagine all the way i have friends who have them and they love it.i have a friend that had a mongoose he hated it it broke the first 30 min out the box i was there.then he got a silver bullet has hella ghostly probs like you put a brand new battery in and the thing reads low battery and it cuts off during the game.

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