look it's like this if you want your "OWN" gun get the cocker is a sweet gat no matter what people say. My first gun is in my sig cocker's r a tinker's gun if you like to tinker with a gun then a cocker is your gun. an when you get tired of tinkering with it just get a E-blade then it's electro! then after the E-blade do like i'm doing wait for the "MQ" valve then your cocker will be totaly electro an will rip old ladys faces off for sure mine does it now. just get the gun you want get to know how it opreates the 05 r sweet gat's
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i love tinkering with stuff and taking stuff apart to see how it works (dont even own an autococker and already know how they work and know how to time one... thats how much i love knowing how stuff works) so i know a cocker is definitely my gun. also i like being able to customize stuff... sure $1000 high end electros are great, but not many upgrades. when it comes to cockers there is practically a library of parts to choose from and you can make a really truely unique gun... so shove that all you ion lovers
thanks for the input budman but if someone could answer my questions on the previous page they will be rewarded with a cookie...
I agree totally. I've owned Angels (the old ones), Shockers (the originals, sports, 4x4's), I've used modern shockers, Timmies, modern Angels, yet I don't own any of those guns...I own 4 cockers.
Good question, I'm pretty sure it's evo...but not 100%
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it says the asa is integrated, i wanted a 15* asa anyways but im wondering if this has anything to do with stuff like removing the trigger frame/timing rod/three way or taking out the valve?
I'm not sure what you're asking here. Are you saying CAN you still do all that stuff? If so, then yes, you can still take all those parts off. I've never actually taken one apart to look to see if the asa is actually integrated, but it looks like the same old bolt-on -15* asa that orries have used for years.
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and also what threading do the feednecks use? i would assume autococker since its made by wgp and all but i guess anything is possible... and yes this is one of the first (if not only) stock autocockers to come with a threaded removeable feedneck.
I would never have guessed it was threaded...I really need to take a better look at it!!
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finally, how are the stock pneumatics/internals? i see that they have finally provided a stock cocker with an externally adjustable LPR and 3 way which is definitely a plus, and it comes with the black magic inline reg which is another plus, but i have yet to see anything about internals other than the delrin bolt.
The pneumatics are the same nickel pneumatics as were on the 04 models. They are fine, look nice, but aren't going to set records for performance. Internals are unchanged other than the front block itself. It uses Karni front block for low pressure operation.
thanks for that info tlmiller. and on the asa, by integrated im assuming by integrated it means welded on. in the description it says integrated and im assuming its like the intergrated front block on trilogies... its built into the gun. and i was wondering if the fact that you cannot remove the asa would affect anything such as changing the three way/timing rod/trigger frame/ valve, i dont own a cocker and im not sure how to change the valve but i thought maybe it had something to do with taking off the asa
just noob questions but im trying to do my homework before buying one
Yeah, even if the asa IS integrated, you can still change the valve. The screw that holds the valve in is located under the trigger frame. All the other parts on just bolted into the front block, so they can be changed without issue. I'll have to go over the shop sometime soon and take a look at the prostock again, I swear it looked like the ordinary bolted on asa...the wgp site doesn't even have the 05 prostock listed yet (still shows the 04), where did you see about it having integrated ASA? I can't find it.
ok...after al of this...i got an 04 cocker (prostock) lol!
By the way...is there any way to shorten the pull on the cocker so that i dont do that lil thing where the ball gets in the way of the other ball and both balls just fall out of the barrel... forgot thr name of that...hmmm
AND! why do my balls look like if there not shooting right? they look kinda slow..
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After you've calculated all this, I'm confident that you'll have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, spontaneously combusting, seeing hailey's comet pass by 30 times, watch a meteor shower, and win the lottery all in the same instant while being attacked by a swarm of mutant killer bees being chased by a drunk irishman wearing a sumo wrestler's thong with a tatoo of his mom's name on his ass.
not sure if the stock WGP hinge frame are adjustable, but if they are you will need to take off the trigger frame (i think) and look for a screws somewhere around the trigger. you will need to retime after this. and i think the word you were looking for is shortstroking.
if the balls look slow, they probablly are. go chrono the gun. if this doesnt help then the reason is they are probablly too small for your barrel and they get turbulent air in front of them or something like that which slows them down and decreases accuracy.
hmm cool thx....but i ran into another prob....whenever i put on the nitro, it sounds like if it leaking alot from the pnematics.(from the 3 way) The smallest hose seems to be leaking. and the three way seems to be lose. Should it be thta way?
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After you've calculated all this, I'm confident that you'll have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, spontaneously combusting, seeing hailey's comet pass by 30 times, watch a meteor shower, and win the lottery all in the same instant while being attacked by a swarm of mutant killer bees being chased by a drunk irishman wearing a sumo wrestler's thong with a tatoo of his mom's name on his ass.
3-way is fine somewhat loose, as long as it's on far enough to be secure. Is it the HOSE that's leeking or the front/rear of the 3-way itself? If it's the hose, it might have a small hole. More likely if you bought new, if it's leaking out either the front or the rear of the 3-way, then it's (probably) just mistimed...
The wgp hinge is easily adjusted. REmove the grips, and there is a stop screw going up into the frame. Turn clockwise to set the sear stop for however short you can make the trigger pull while still allowing the 3-way to fully cycle.
Do a test. Point the barrel slightly upwards and shoot, are the balls still going slowly? If so, then you've probably got too little pressure or the ivg is out too far. If not, then you either need to get a different barrel to match the paint you shoot (may I recommend the J&J Ceramic Edge kit), or use different paint in your barrel.
heh....right now i got a Dye Ultralight...and im using Draxxus paintballs with it...but the timing **** sounds very complicated! lol
whats leakings is the first hose( nearest to the gun)...it sounds like a grip load of air is going out but it doesnt seem to affect the psi in the tank. though i still would like to get that fixed...its relly annoying...
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After you've calculated all this, I'm confident that you'll have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, spontaneously combusting, seeing hailey's comet pass by 30 times, watch a meteor shower, and win the lottery all in the same instant while being attacked by a swarm of mutant killer bees being chased by a drunk irishman wearing a sumo wrestler's thong with a tatoo of his mom's name on his ass.
well all the hoses are near the gun, but im assuming you mean the 3-way hose (the rod that moves when you pull and release the trigger leads into the 3-way, and there are 3 hoses coming out the top of it) it could be a worn out hose or a bad 3-way oring. and it doesnt affect the psi in the tank alot because the pressure of the 3 way and the rest of the front pneumatics is usually about 50 psi or less. a tiny volume of air at 50 psi doesnt add up to even 100 shots.
as for timing, it sounds complicated at first but after you try it while reading the directions it will come second nature to you. heck, i could time a cocker in my sleep! its not as hard as it looks/sounds.
After you've calculated all this, I'm confident that you'll have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, spontaneously combusting, seeing hailey's comet pass by 30 times, watch a meteor shower, and win the lottery all in the same instant while being attacked by a swarm of mutant killer bees being chased by a drunk irishman wearing a sumo wrestler's thong with a tatoo of his mom's name on his ass.
dont even bother with trilogies, you can get a used 2004 prostock for less than what you would pay for a trilogy competition and it will be much, much better.
say tlmiller, did you have any 05's in stock today? pm me
so yea...i started ****ing around with the gun...looking at all the internals...checking out how they work and ****...now all i need is nitro and check how bad i ****ed it up..
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After you've calculated all this, I'm confident that you'll have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning, spontaneously combusting, seeing hailey's comet pass by 30 times, watch a meteor shower, and win the lottery all in the same instant while being attacked by a swarm of mutant killer bees being chased by a drunk irishman wearing a sumo wrestler's thong with a tatoo of his mom's name on his ass.
WGP 2005 Pro Stock Autococker
