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**PAINTBALLA52** · January 26th, 11:38 PM

What exactly is the 360qev and why is it such a highly suggested upgrade for the epi?

TheAznInvazn · January 26th, 11:40 PM

Quick Exhause Valve, you get better efficiency and you get a grease trap so you don't mess up your solinoid and you can get a faster cycle rate on your gun if you get an aftermarket board.

**kenny_1491** · January 26th, 11:48 PM

the man above said it all. I ordered the wrong one, sold it and am ordering a different one. if you don't wanna support SP you can just get a different one.

Dark.angel · January 27th, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny_1491

SLG is now 200 bub, the PMR is 249. and you know nothing about epiphany's. they are based off the ion, but are far FROM one. so your statement above has just been made pointless. I haven't personally shot an SLG but have heard it is just like a PMR, but louder and slightly more kick. and my epiphany shoots just like a PMR in my hands, except the PMR I shot had a UL frame on it so it was more comfortable. but just get an epiphany, they are cheaper then the PMR and shoots just like it.

Psh, I just sold an ephiphany on the nation. They shoot similar to an upped ion. I personally have used BOTH marker and not stating my post on one marker. The Proto SLG is the all around better marker.

**kenny_1491** · January 27th, 01:19 AM

I have owned/teched/shot them both. they are far frm the same gun, the only thing that is the same in maintenance. the only thing the SLG will have is probably weight, other then that nothing.

Dark.angel · January 27th, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny_1491

I have owned/teched/shot them both. they are far frm the same gun, the only thing that is the same in maintenance. the only thing the SLG will have is probably weight, other then that nothing.

They shoot similar which you have stated, and the Proto SLG being lighter and having less kick. They BOTH are the same price. The Proto SLG also being under a good company and the epiphany being under the terrible company Smart Parts. I pretty sure that the Proto SLG wins

**kenny_1491** · January 27th, 01:59 AM

the PMR and the epihpany shoot virtually the same, the SLG is gonna be louder and have more kick, and the SLG and epiphany ar ethe same price, but the epiphany is a better gun. the PMR and the epiphany are the same virtually, but the epiphany has a better price tag on it, which is why it is my choice.

**PAINTBALLA52** · January 27th, 08:27 AM

Kenny you still have not shot the slg. I see your logic but it seems that I should rely more on the the guy that has actually shot both. Still not sure however.

That vibe still looks somewhat appealing because of its simplicity.

**kenny_1491** · January 27th, 11:08 AM

what gun do you have now? cuz there isn't much that can't be a step up to a vibe.

**PAINTBALLA52** · January 27th, 11:30 AM

I don't have a gun now. Previously (~3-4 years ago) I went thru a crap load of guns (timmys, matrixes, bushmasters, etc.) but realized I wasn't really even paintballing, I was just trading gun after gun. So I sold my stuff and "quit." Over the past few years I have had some urges to start again, and never really did anything about it until now, hence the thread. I just want something that will shoot good and be very easy to keep up; however, I don't want to regret not spending the etra $60 for the epi/slg if I start to go a lot. However I don't want the opposite either (to buy amazing gear and never go). I'm having difficulty choosing which loader/hpa tank to get now as well: 47/3k + halo frontman or 68/4500 + halo b?

I've cut it down to some mixture of these:

Gun: Epiphany, Vibe, or SLG
Loader: Egg3, HaloB, or halo frntman
Tank: haven't really cut it down here, not sure if I should go steel or fiber or what size.

SJBaller · January 27th, 11:43 AM

read the comment under me

SJBaller · January 27th, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark.angel

I take it you really don't what you are talking about? The Proto SLG is MORE expensive than the Epiphany, with the retail on the epipahny being 200 and the Proto SLG being 250. The manitenance on both makers are both very simple. On Reliablity the Proto SLG takes it aganist the Epiphany. Proto/Dye>Smart Parts. The markers performance is comparing night to day.
A Martrix>Upped Ion

All in all go with the Proto SLG.

SLG is now $200. (Yes i know somebody has already posted this)

Epiphany is $250.

You spelled Epiphany wrong when mentioning the price. How are you a good source if you cant spell right?

Dark.angel · January 27th, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SJBaller

SLG is now $200. (Yes i know somebody has already posted this)

Epiphany is $250.

You spelled Epiphany wrong when mentioning the price. How are you a good source if you cant spell right?

There actually both $200 dallors. Nice, man correcting a missed type word on the internet, please do not ever try correct me agian. Me>you

K thanx bai

**PAINTBALLA52** · January 27th, 06:17 PM

Or I could do this? What do you guys think about this package?

Ion deal 1
or
Ion deal 2

And if I got a barrel: SP Progressive, Linear, or CP one piece?

TheAznInvazn · January 27th, 06:21 PM

out of those two, the second deal is better, but I'd still go for the Epiphany.

**kenny_1491** · January 27th, 08:46 PM

truth to the above, but the ion with the QEV and such is better.

**PAINTBALLA52** · January 27th, 09:34 PM

Might anger a couple of you, but I went with the SLG. Something inside just wanted to get it and so I had to. Went with a clamping feedneck, halo B, and steel 47/3k tank to go with it (got it at ansgear for $345 w/ free ship). Can't wait for it to come.

TheAznInvazn · January 27th, 11:34 PM

You might have wanted to wait for a better tank. 47/3000 isn't gonna get you too many shots.

**kenny_1491** · January 28th, 11:37 AM

truff to the above. but no, we do need somebody to try out new gear.

new jack · February 12th, 09:01 PM

Paintballa -

I find myself in the same position you were just in. Let me know if you think you made the right decision.