[JugaLug]

I bought one A-5 thru online auction with minor mods, and one from a pawn shop completely stock. I can shot the cheapest paint without any breaks, or gun failures. For woodsball this tank of a gun is very reliable. My local field only uses air, and the A-5 works flawlessly with it. I recommend a used A-5 on air with a remote for Woodsball.

[TheAznInvazn]

But the question is, have you ever used a VS series marker?

By just saying the A5 rocks without any other marker experiance, your thoughs become largely biased.
Glad you like the A5, but I do believe the general answer here is a VS series marker.

[JugaLug]

So, Azn, If a different marker other than the VS3 or A5 are mentioned you are the first to blast the post. Look at the post "If I was you, I'd also look into the Vibe/SP1." Oh, I see you can mention other markers, my bad. You're special! I list a couple facts about my A5, and you blast me for being biased.

Now based on my experience with the VS3 and the A5, I would recommend a used A-5 on air with a remote for Woodsball. I switch to a dropforward and mount the bottle to the marker for speedball, which works, but is not the Best solution.

[TheAznInvazn]

Well, if you look at my post and the other post, you can clearly see that I suggest the Vibe/SP1 in a slightly different way then the Spyder Pilot.

I "blasted" your post since you gave no counter arguement agains the VS Series. IF you would have said "You know, the VS Series... blah blah blah blah... BUT the A5 has this... blah blah blah... and that's why the A5 is better," than I would have possibly said something different, or not posted at all.

So, what are your experiances with the VS Series? I have still yet to hear from you about them

[Defender]

I would get the A-5. Especially for woodsball. The A-5 is very customizable and you can change it as you need it. But if you MUST get a VS series gun, get the VS2. There is a reason the pro's use that insead of the VS3.

[Defender]

Also, take the price into consideration.

[tobymoryr]

a5 comes with a hopper

you'll need to buy a good hopper for vs3 separately

[gameguru1360]

also consider the cost of the mods for both guns. If you don't like spending lots of cash on mods, go with the Spyder since the variable rate of fire is already built-in with the spyders. The Tippmanns can range from $80-150 for the e-triggers or response trigger. You can go with those marker bundles, but like the spyder fanboys, they'll tell you that you can almost get 2 spyders for the price of 1 Tippmann with the e-trigger. But then again the Tippmanns have a ton more cosmetic mods than the spyders!

Take a look at these buttstock upgrades for the A5:
Tippmann A5 and 98 Butt Stock

Spyders:
Spyder/Automag/F-4

[Trbo323]

since he is just trying to get the marker..........im pretty sure he isnt horribly concerned with upgrades and cosmetics right now.....

here is some info from my experience with each of the markers here

A-5 stock is ok, kinda heavy, good paint is a MUST or else the cyclone feed just shreds it all up, dificult to work on, a properly set up a-5 does quite well in the woods

98c ageing, the oldest of the markers listed here, if you go this rout get the 98c pro, one of the most durable markers out there, will keep shooting no matter what, great for woods

vs1, has eyes, great entry level marker, sometimes a bit overwhelming for some first timers, seen a few in action, was rather impressed by the performance compaired to the price, will run on co2 will work good in the woods or speedball just make sure to try and keep it clean (bolt is exposed in the back)

vs2, has eyes, havnt seen one of these in action so i dont know too much about them beyond, they are air only and better than the vs1

vs3=bad news, my shop isnt carrying them in favor of the vs2

smart parts sp1, similar to the ion in a different shell around the same price as sp1 (air, co2? anyone know?), no eyes, 13 bps stock (they claim 17), heard lots of adds saying these are durable but never heard/seen anyone demonstrate that yet.

hope this helps

[xxSniperxx]

I'm running an A-5A2 from Spec Ops and I couldnt be happier. Its my second marker and I think I made the right decision for myself. Its extremely accurate with a J&J ceramic 14" barrel and I've yet to have one cyclone break out of 2 cases of the worst paintballs (Kick'n Paintballs)imaginable. Granted, I've had about 20 barrel breaks but some of the balls looked like oversized peanut m&ms so it was inevitable. Dont believe everything you read, my cyclone is completely stock and its worked flawlessly. My first marker was a spyder MR1 (Had to buy something while waiting on the A-5 to arrive) and its not a bad gun either but its not in the same league as the A-5. I run C02 on both using a remote line and they both work fine. Dont buy into the hype of HPA tanks and stabablizers. Save your money for actually playing the game.

I have not used the VS series of Spyders but I've heard mixed opinions about those also. My suggestion is to do what I did. Go to the local fields and see what the other guys are using. Ask if you can use their guns if you buy them some paint. Most are more than willing to help you with your decision making process and have no problems letting you use their guns.

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by xxSniperxx

Dont buy into the hype of HPA tanks and stabablizers.

what hype? theres a reason you cant get a marker thats over $500 that runs off CO2.......i also find it a bit amusing that this is coming from someone whom has never ran air

[xxSniperxx]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

what hype? theres a reason you cant get a marker thats over $500 that runs off CO2.......i also find it a bit amusing that this is coming from someone whom has never ran air

Actually, I've run HPA at the local field a couple times and even tested the difference because I almost bought a $100.00+ 68/4500 HPA tank. Dont get my wrong, its more consistant than C02 but its not needed on a Tippmann. Now if he actually goes with the VS3, he should definitely run an HPA. My only gripe is that people pretend that upgrading to HPA from C02 is going to change your game and it wont for the most part. Even using HPA, I had differences on chrono of about 7FPS. Granted, I've hit a difference of 13 fps using a C02 tank. I've run about 6 fills from a 20oz CO2 tank and 4 fills from a 12oz C02 tank and I've yet to experience a large "spike" in pressure. Then again, I'm running a remote line. Also, you can use an anti-siphon C02 tank on all those $500.00+ marker.

[Trbo323]

good luck with that, the cold co2 still wears on the rings faster than air, maybe its possible but no company will advise it, id be willing to bet if you called in wanting some work under warrenty and you told them you were running an anti-siphoned co2 they wouldnt give it to you and tell you your warrenty is now void.

also, you do know co2 effects your accuracy right?

[TheAznInvazn]

Not accuracy, only consistancy (which can equate to accuracy).

[Trbo323]

accuracy because of the cooling effect on the barrel, condesation on the inside of the barrel puts spin on the ball and we all know what happens after that, if you are in a very dry climate this will be minimized but if its a humid day, you could be having some issues. have you ever noticed that some barrel comparisons also list the humidity levels?

[TheAznInvazn]

barrel cooling is quite neglegable and diesn't really make a difference, while condensation will make big changes, just FYI

[Trbo323]

the condensation is a result of the temperature changes, if the co2 was the same temperature as the surounding air it wouldnt happen, FYI

[DRwaffles98]

i myself have a vibe and love it! the asa on it in great how its angled is perfect. i buy "monster balls paint" and i have NEVER broken paint.

[Trbo323]

thats cuz the monster balls have a thicker shell than normal. they do work well through a cyclone feed cuz they can hold up to the forces, one of the downsides though is you will get a lot more bounces on people

[TheAznInvazn]

Originally Posted by TheAznInvazn

barrel cooling is quite neglegable and diesn't really make a difference, while condensation will make big changes, just FYI

I'm glad you concure with me Trbo