[stump13]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

any vision system trumps a AC bolt anyday, the rocking trigger is a joke that doesnt make you shoot any faster than a normal e-trigger and teaches you bad form, just because you beat your friend who has a ion speaks nothing about the markers you both have, it just means you are better at paintball, if you both switched markers you would still win.

auto modes are dying out in favor of ramping modes

and the rocking trigger makes you alot faster

[jll346]

Originally Posted by stump13

and the rocking trigger makes you alot faster

I have not seen anything positive about the rocking triggers?

[tlmiller]

Originally Posted by jll346

I have not seen anything positive about the rocking triggers?

You've seen correctly. they suck, and are just a gimmick to get people to spend more money.

[paintball crayz]

for 150 u can get a smart parts vibe very good gun

[jll346]

Originally Posted by paintball crayz

for 150 u can get a smart parts vibe very good gun

There are just too many choices. I think I am sticking with the VS2. I can get it with a good loader for about $150. For the $90 it costs if I want something better down the road it would be a good second gun with a minimal investment.

[tlmiller]

Originally Posted by jll346

There are just too many choices. I think I am sticking with the VS2. I can get it with a good loader for about $150. For the $90 it costs if I want something better down the road it would be a good second gun with a minimal investment.

Smart choice. Perfect reasoning. Good decision.

[jll346]

Originally Posted by tlmiller

Smart choice. Perfect reasoning. Good decision.

Like I said I haven't played in 10 years. My last gun I owned was a Bob Long Millenium. I think the VS2 will be an upgrade as far as being a bit more high tech to say the least! Now I just need to decide on a reasonable hopper and tank.

Since I have been away so long I have had some sticker shock along with sooooo many choices. Back when I played the View Loader Revolution was top notch.

[CarbineKid]

There are package deals where you can get an evolution 3 and a 48/3000 hpa tank for under $100. Its a good deal, and will do for a weekend warrior

[tlmiller]

Guerilla Air 62/3000 (myth) can be had for $50, Eyeforce $50 also. GREAT starting gear, and the EyeForce will stay with you for a long time, as it's good enough to stay with you unless you learn to shoot 18+ bps consistent. The GA tank has a smaller reg on it than a 48/3000, so it's the same length, while being only slightly heavier, and holding a good 30% more shots.

[jll346]

Definately getting the Guerilla tank. As far a loaders. How does the Eye Force compare to the Evo 3? The force looks so bulky??

[2.0]

Evo III feeds faster but is prone to breaking down, dunno about the eye force though. I do know they're about the same size but the evo 3 is slightly lighter.

[tlmiller]

Evo3 slightly lighter, EyeForce significantly more consistent. Also less prone to breaking.

[jll346]

I guess I can live with the size?

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by stump13

in case you were wondering... the vs2 does have eyes...

ya....thats why i was suggesting the vs2 over something with a AC bolt......

Originally Posted by stump13

and the rocking trigger makes you alot faster

nice try stumpy, but get some experience before claming something is a good product, a double contact trigger is not faster than a single contact trigger at all, you are still using 2 fingers to shoot, if you want a link to a discusion on just this topic id be happy to supply it.

[protoplaya]

i would have gone with the ion xe for real.

edit: didnt realize how old this post was. lol