[Cody O'Connor]

Hey, I just started ballin'. I've been more than 6 times and am planning on buying a gun. Please tell me what gun is the best for a starter. I like to have an accurate and sniper-style gun, but still be able to run up and beat the crap outta a guy. Heres my list of what I've heard.

• Spyder Xtra
• Spyder E99
• Tippmann 98 Custom

[Spyder_Pimper#1]

ok u have been sucked in a ploy,there is no sniper in paintball,i suggest u get a e99,jaj ceramic barrel 10-14 inches,anti siphoned co2 tank,a empire reloder hopper,and some good paint and u will have a good gun.

[Cody O'Connor]

what i meant by sniper is mostly a a5 or 98 custom with a flatline barrel. i think that counts as a sniper gun.

[Spyder_Pimper#1]

maybe u consider them to be sniper but they arent,they are woods ball guns.but can be used in speed ball.

[Cody O'Connor]

alright, just one more question. uh... i can get a spyder e99 for $139, or....
a spyder imagine for $119, which should i go for?

[Spyder_Pimper#1]

really a imagine and e99 are the same so get imagine and get the ups in my post i posted above.

[PaintBallBob]

there is no sniping as in shooting more then 150 ft. sure you can wait and ambush but that is one mistake newbs make the most often. you learn a lot faster and have a lot more fun going out and being a hell of a lot more aggressive.

a good rule of thumb is if your bunker isnt being shot at you should move.

as far as the guns go i would suggest the following to packages.

woodsball
tippmann 98c($130)
Dye Proto Switch mask($30)
20oz CO2($20)
allen wrenches, oil, cleaning supplies, ect...($15)
total: $195

--upgrades in order--
J&J Ceramic Barrel($35)
double trigger($20)
drop forward($20)
ViewLoad Revolution($50)
3000PSI Pure Energy Fiber-wrapped tank($180)

Speedball
Dragun TES...save up the extra few bucks you wont regret it($160)
Dye Proto Switch mask($30)
20oz CO2($20)
ViewLooader Evolution II w/ z-board($60) youll need this for any electric gun unless you like chopping
allen wrenches, oil, cleaning supplies, ect...($20)
total: $290

--upgrades in order--
J&J Ceramic Barrel($35)
3000PSI Pure Energy Fiber-wrapped tank($180)


Highly Recomended
Spyder Victor II($60)
Dye Proto Switch mask($30)
3000PSI Pure Energy Fiber-wrapped tank($180)
total: $270
--upgrades in order--
Halo B($110)
OR
ViewLoader Revolution($50)
and then a new gun either a Indian Creek Designs' BKO, a used Smart Parts Impulse, or a WGP 2k4 Vertical Feed cocker. get the halo B for the impulse or BKO, get the revolution for the cocker.

tl;dr version:
its pretty simple. a Dragun TES is fast and expensive. a Tippmann 98c is slow but built like a tank. and the Victor II is cheap allowing you to upgrade to a new gun sooner.

[Cody O'Connor]

so i'm now thing about getting the Spyder E99 or the Victor II. which, for the price, is a better gun?

[Spyder_Pimper#1]

e99 by 100%

[PaintBallBob]

^nice for you to explain your opinion

e99=teh suckitude.
for $20 more you can get a gun that shoots twice as fast, has eyes, and has the same consistency, same reliability, and better quality parts.

the only good spyders are the mechanical ones. the electronics are way overpriced in comparrision with their competition.

for the price the victor II is a much better gun.
my problem with any spyder though is that the kickback is terrible. for that reason id suggest either the victor II(cheap), Tippmann 98c(woodsball), or Dragun TES(speedball)

[p8ntballweird]

haha the people on here are the only people i have met that aren't T.E.S haters... usually everywhere i go.. .my field, other sites, etc. they give me **** about t.e.s's. Here not many ppl have bad things to say about them

guess ill help with the thread... the t.e.s's are cheap now but if you're sure you don't want that id say get a tippman 98 or the e-99. a lot of players at the begginning of there careers want to be dead accurate and want the tippman series but after seeing the nicer faster guns want to change to that... i would reccomend the e99 over the tippy unless you are dead set at playing in the woods most of the time...

[painty dave]

im a begener to and i have a spyder xtra and id say you should get a spyder finix with a reloder hopper to compite with its 16 bps fiering rate thats what i think but if any one has any sugjestions for me plz tell me because im going to a 3man rokie turny next week

[painty dave]

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oh ya and you shold get a 20 oce co2 with a dicent tank cover and its a little price (320$)

[visionimpulse2k]

What?^^^

a fenix shoots 13 at max..and it is very hard to hit 13 on it stock, actually, extremely hard..and they are blenders to if u shoot at any speed over 6 bps unless u have a halo..

Id get a tes...they are amazingness for the price, they got eyes, and a very light trigger pull for a cheap gun. Capped at 20 bps and it is easy to get 12-14 bps on it. Make sure u have an egg or a halo

tes=160 on the gateway of paintball
20 oz c02= 30
egg= 70
mask= 25

$285

[slim]

Originally Posted by painty dave

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oh ya and you shold get a 20 oce co2 with a dicent tank cover and its a little price (320$)

What is this "oce" tank you speak of?

And...

What is a "dicent" tank cover? Is that a new name brand for 2005?


Breath deeply and try typing slower.

[visionimpulse2k]

http://www.carbineshornet.com/images...ll/what%20.wmv

that is a video of one