[doatec2k3]

Here's my review of my Spyder Victor II:

Just this sunday I used it for a 6 hour scenario game, and it wasn't at all bad. However, the stock barrel is crappy and balls (although accurate at short distances) would often curve to the right or downward. This will soon be solved with a $45 Smart Parts Teardrop barrel (http://www.smartparts.com/Store/Teardrop.aspx). Also, the grip is a hard plastic that I find too large. So, I'm going to buy new grips (Dye Sticky 3) for it. Otherwise, I'd say this gun has alot going for it considering the price, and I didn't notice any major recoil. Plus, if you plan on keeping it for a long time, consider an ESP frame (around $80) down the road. The Victor has good trigger feel but it doesn't fire that fast. The ESP Frame would solve this. I figure I might buy one after Christmas.

Actually, before this PM I was majorly considering selling the Victor and getting a Tippmann 98 Custom. The problem is that I hear the 98C sucks at Speedball, and I odn't play exclusively woodsball.

What I said in a nutshell:
Pros: -Light, small, inexpensive
Cons: -You will probably want to upgrade the barrel and grips becuase they aren't that good.

Good upgrade ideas:
The Victor II isn't the most expensive gun, so don't pour loads of money into it. Start with a nice barrel, I suggest the Smart Parts Teardrop or J&J Ceramic barrel. Get more comforable grips such as Dye Stickies. A new drop forward will help keep the gun more balanced, although my friend liked the stock drop. As you play more and want to really improve your gun, an ESP Frame would be a good idea. Remember that Spyders depreciate quite quickly though, so don't put in a ton of money. If you aren't customizing, then get an Imagine because it is better stock.

[PaintBallBob]

Originally Posted by doatec2k3

I didn't notice any major recoil.

really? i must get bad spyders or you get good ones...ive shot both an imagine and victor II and both recoiled a lot more then a tippmann(to the point were i thought the tippy was better at speedball). lol. anyway, other then that i nice review and some great upgrade tips.

[Spyder_Pimper#1]

did u get it from pbreview,or just get part of it because i seen a post exactly or pretty close to it.

[doatec2k3]

I didn't copy from PBReview, although I did check it prior to buying. It got a 9.1/10.0 avg rating! And I've never shot the 98C so I don't really know how bad recoil is relative to it.

[PaintBallBob]

as i said, i might have shot a lemon. the fact that my friend didnt have bottom line(so the tank just hung) might have hurt the recoil too

[Cody O'Connor]

now, i know i'm an idiot for asking. is recoil after u shoot, the feedback from the shot?

[N8ive_Snoborder]

well daotek, all guns normally give bad stock barrels (havnt heard of a good review of a stock spyder barrel) so that was obvious(dont get offended, im not trying to make fun of u) and is the victor 2 have HUGE grips, or do u have small hands?

[doatec2k3]

I suppose the grips would feel better if I had gloves on. Still, they cheapen the look of the gun. Also, I talked to my friend Nick (who just bought a Victor II) about the recoil and he said:

"Yeah, I noticed it. It sent the gun back after every shot... but I liked it, it was like a real gun."

[Kyle_18]

Sounds like an OK gun, not the greatest not the worst...

[spyder117]

I love the spyder victors design. lightweight,cheap and upgradable. these guns work great for most things.
Parts-
*Drop forward
*Sticky grips (dye)
*N20 tank
*Electronic trigger & frame
*Electronic hopper
*Jt Force mask
*14" barrel
*Nxe pod holder
they work great. but i got the gun for VERY cheap. like 20 bucks. and just to let everyone know NEVER BUY PSYCHO BALLISTIC. you cant order parts for them.

[russo2]

i reallllly like my gun
i used it once with no upgrades and didnt see too much of a reoil but im used to shooting real guns too
and i did think it was hard on co2 so i got an expansion chamber for it
i also got a 32 degrees whisper barrel that is freaken amazing
all in all it is a great gun and i am gettin a rocker trigger for it soon

[thecolorfred]

the spyder victor is a beast my friend has one and he throws it and it still works prefect

[SupahFly21]

nice review. Good beginners gun

[YouCantSeeMee]

Originally Posted by thecolorfred

the spyder victor is a beast my friend has one and he throws it and it still works prefect

I'm guessing you mean Watson?! Yeah, the Spyder Victor is a nice marker. It's great for all players, and could probably even own in the hands of an accurate backman in speedball!

[HardcoreSlot]

ive got one, its nice (im a noob but the othes i was wit said it wasent bad), the only thing is i i cant find any upgrades for it

maybe a dumb question but are the Victor II and the VS's parts interchangeable?
dont flame me too bad