[paintballer5414]

it is now 290 and it isn't a fancy spyder it is a fancy autococker so be quiet please also have you ever shot and omen i didn't think so thank you come again.

[tlmiller]

Like I said, learn how an omen operates. If you truly believe it's a cocker, then I've got this really awesome angel that says TALON on it, I'll sell it to you for $800!!

[paintballer5414]

ha ha i do know how it works i own one and you didn't answer if you ever shot one so you figure out how it works first then you are allowed to speak to me

[tlmiller]

I know how they operate. You may own one, but you seem to fail to grasp how they operate. No matter how much denial you're in, that doesn't change the fact that they're STACKED TUBE BLOWBACKS. In other words: A SPYDER CLONE.

[Born2drive]

Everyone Read Befor Making A New Thread!!!!!!!!!

[paintballer5414]

Originally Posted by tlmiller

True. It's fully closed bolt, just like a cocker. But they're even more hassle than a cocker getting it to work right from everything I've read. I've always wanted to pick one up if I could find one cheap just to play around with to see if it's really as hard as everyone says it is.

need to make up you mind is it like a cocker or a spyder thats what i thought you just like picking fights you know im right

[tlmiller]

It's closed bolt like a cocker. That's the only trait is has in common. They're a blow back. Yes, it's a fancy blow-back that allows it to operate closed bolt, but a blow-back is still a blow-back.
And yes, I would like to pick one up, since it's on of the very few guns I've never gotten to REALLY play around with. If I could find one for the same price as other used spyder clones ($50-75), I'd jump on it and buy it in an instant. That doesn't change the fact that they're spyders. I also want to find a used Rainmaker and get it. Doesn't mean I think they're good guns, just means I want to get one to check it out.

[paintballer5414]

a gun can't be both a closed bolt and blow back

[sakurai]

Originally Posted by paintballer5414

a gun can't be both a closed bolt and blow back

Yes it can... for example.... the omen....

IT has nothing to do with the Autococking Procedure, there is no cocking rod, no 3-way , it does not operate, at all, like a cocker.

[paintthecatBLUE]

i dont get why all the "high end guys" look down on blowbacks and call EP "the future of paintball"

blowback is faster than EP by design by about 35 bps, theres no way around that. sure maybe a b2k4 is better than an evil omen... but it also costs $200 more than the omen, so that isn't really a fair comparison. FOR THE PRICE RANGE, the evil omen is a great gun. obviously when you compare it to more expensive guns it starts to suck, but then again, that is true with any gun.

[Evil_Omen152]

I have been looking at this forum for a while and i cant stand all the pollution you people have been putting on here. The omen is an awsome marker. Buy one put the new cam arms in it and buy the new board which pushes it up to a great 25 balls per second. That isnt slow. Then if you really want to get into it buy a pipe kit. That way you can nail your opponent in the face 25 times in one second. while they try to use there bko which manages to hit everywhere but the intended target. why dont you go think about that for a while.

[chromekilla]

im sure were all intimidated by you


notice what you omen ****'s are saying, "buy the outragously overpriced spyder, then put $100 worth of upgrades in it just so it can shoot moderatly fast without chopping"


who wants to buy a gun that you have to upgrade out of the box just to take to the field with you? i sure dont, and no one else does either, thats why only about 27 people in the world were duped into buying an omen


and whoever said the omen was a great gun in its price range needs to learna thing or two about this thing we called painball.

[bobide]

IT MAY BE A NICE GUN, BuT FOR THE PRICE THERE ARE BETTER THINGS.

[OnTheMatBaller]

Omen-$350

Piranha EVO-$250
Spyder Fenix ACS-$250
Tippman 98c w/ Ebolt-$370 Tippman w/ Response-$220
Smart Parts Ion-$285
ICD 2k4 BKO-$290
Torrid X-$260

If the omen were in the same price range as the others MAYBE.

But not now, and probably never.

[Evil_Omen152]

and all your points are??? the omen is no spyder you should really study up on your paintball markers. It is more of a cocker than anything. lets look here. a spyder has an alluminum bolt roughly one half inch thick an omens bolt is just like a cockers. It has a cam feed. Its like the blind kid in a kung fu movie who walks around kicking everyone elses *** it doesnt need eyes to be good. as far as a tippman being better dont make me laugh. it may shoot somewhat but it will never hit where you want it to. i have even seen flatlines curve like hell. why would you want any of those other guns? I can tell you why everyone talks about how good these guns are because they are theirs. People here about the one person in the world that is illiterate and doesn't read the manual. You must adjust it like any cocker. Once it is set then you have a gun that can run with all the timmys and trixes. all it takes is knowing how to read.

[Evil_Omen152]

if it such a bad gun why did evil factory use them before they got the pimp?

[bobide]

b/c they were given them. Duh.

[Evil_Omen152]

sponsorships don't give out guns they had to buy their guns in order for evil to sponsor them originally and if they were that bad of a gun they would of got a sponsorship from another company but they were loyal and knew it was a good gun. think before talking.

[paintballer5414]

you have a pretty good point evil omen im behind you to the end. you have a way with words.

[chromekilla]

its like teaching trigonometry to a mule isnt it?