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**paintballer82** · August 20th, 05:53 PM

Is this a good set of upgrades for my b2k4.5? it's in my sig

**CrazyWeasel** · August 20th, 05:58 PM

Yeah.....Be ready tho, sometimes thing get pricey. My plan was to already have my gun pimped now which i could do but i gotta spend money on other junk. Anyways ya thats good, but get it with PDS.

**inkjt510** · August 20th, 07:23 PM

If he's getting a blind bolt, he doesn't need PDS.

**ChaosTheory** · August 20th, 07:36 PM

i ordererd a b2k4 but wihtout pds im probably just going to go with the blind bolt but eventually i may have pds installed on it. and as i said before the setup look fine

**CrazyWeasel** · August 20th, 08:09 PM

Believe me, i'd rather spend the extra $75 or $85 to get PDS that get a new bolt. I've heard too many good and bad things about the blind Bolt, and i'd rather have ZERO chops than "reduced chance" of chops, especially if he has a slow hopper.

**ChaosTheory** · August 20th, 08:11 PM

ya, i would of got pds with mine but i was already 100 dollars short which my dad loaned me so i figured in a few months when i get a job ill send it to icd and have them install it even though it will cost more now

***EM1-Master*** · August 20th, 09:01 PM

blind bolt doesn't eliminate all chops... PDS eliminates 99.9% of chops... Combination of both is best choice, but blind bolt is NOT a replacement for PDS....

**ChaosTheory** · August 20th, 09:10 PM

actually it is a replacement for pds it eliminates almost all chops and with the two combines you will most likely never get a chop

**matt9119** · August 20th, 09:28 PM

Ye all that crap is a huge amount of money...
OTB Bolt: 30$
MacDev:Gladiator 80$
MacDev:Matchstik Barrel 150$(which is the best barrel price out there!)
MacDev: Sonic LPR 65$
Vapor Vavle: 35$
Choas: 80$
Drop: 70$
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Sub Total: 510$ in upgrades
Estimated shipping cost: around 50$

**paintballer82** · August 20th, 09:32 PM

yes, but is it worth it?, and that's american...

**CrazyWeasel** · August 20th, 09:35 PM

Ima just sayin to the kid to think about ditching sum upgrades right away to get PDS which i think is a much better investment than getting it W/o PDS and getting a Blind bolt and an HPr or sumthin. Oh and be sure to get the LPR gauge, it helps alot.

As for if it's worth it...Meh I dunno. I wasted allloottt of money before i even knew what i was doing. And now im stuck with a decently efficient gun, but it chops like mad and barely gets any use.

**paintballer82** · August 20th, 09:49 PM

why does it chop like mad? wouldn't pds/blind bolt fix it?

**CrazyWeasel** · August 20th, 10:01 PM

I have an Egg2 w/ Y-board No PDS, No Blind bolt...I shoot like 12bps and it chops...It's terrible, then the bolt gets jammed. Although with a Halo B, i heard it keeps up very good. Blind bolt is an iffy choice. Some say it's great, other say it's too hard and it ruins their velocity, but for $30 who knows, you could give it a try. PDS on the other hand eliminates every possible chance to chop, if of course the eyes are clean and the wiring correct and everyhing. So I'm saying unless you're getting a Halo B, definately invest the money to getting ur B2k4 WITH PDS WHEN you buy it, or else you'll be sad to know you had to spends $125 to get chops to stop....I know i am.

**nor_cal** · August 21st, 01:53 AM

u rich lucky bastard

**paintballer82** · August 21st, 11:43 AM

if u have an egg which feeds 17bps (or so it clams

) and your shooting 12 bps, y does it chop....

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · August 21st, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt9119

Ye all that crap is a huge amount of money...
OTB Bolt: 30$
MacDev:Gladiator 80$
MacDev:Matchstik Barrel 150$(which is the best barrel price out there!)
MacDev: Sonic LPR 65$
Vapor Vavle: 35$
Choas: 80$
Drop: 70$
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Sub Total: 510$ in upgrades
Estimated shipping cost: around 50$

chaos is about 70 and the chip is 30, matchstik is 140 from macdev. Unimounts are 40 bucks instead of a crappy drop.

***EM1-Master*** · August 21st, 02:51 PM

Chaos is $80... that's already been established for some time now... chaos chips don't work with b2k4's.... so you need a chaos board... you don't need the chip AND the board... just the board...

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