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**chromekilla** · November 24th, 10:06 PM

ok, i know the new defiant isnt an icd gun, but figured you all would be the most interested

stolen from the nation, heres some pics:

rumor mill puts teh price in the $600-800 category

appearantly they showed it on an episode of pb2x, and some pbn'ers said it was rippin like crazy

**BakerSkate** · November 24th, 10:22 PM

Wtf? Why do you think ICD owners would be the most interested?

***Barber*** · November 24th, 10:36 PM

Because it is similar to the Bushmaster line.

**bobide** · November 24th, 10:40 PM

amazingly tiny, looks ok. I was reading about it on nation after i saw this. (its in the bob long section) someone made a good point. Sand or dirt can get in through those holes near the bolt. Looks pretty nice.

So does it have the torp and some other lpr. I'm guessing thats the only dif. from the b2k5. I'm still getting a b2k, its just as good as this thing imo. Plus its got the clamshell grip!! (which this has to, but still, i'm happy!)

**wackwar** · November 24th, 10:54 PM

ya it looks tight but im still gettin a b2k5

BushmasterMAN · November 25th, 12:23 AM

That looks pretty nice...

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 25th, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BakerSkate

Wtf? Why do you think ICD owners would be the most interested?

Idiot of the day award goes too... The fake ass skater kid! Learn a lesson in gun history. Defiants were made exactly like bushmasters, and I mean exactly, the only difference is the jewel the grip and the milling. Otherwise 2k+ defiants take all upgrades that ICD guns take. They're basically just old bushys. In fact they even use the ICD patent.

Why are you in here if you dont have an ICD gun?

Now to the defiants- Secksy as hell, I bet the rip like a timmy you know bob long likes his guns to be good.

***Barber*** · November 25th, 02:36 PM

My friend might get one when they are available. I'll let you guys know if he does and how it rips.

**Carmas** · November 25th, 09:33 PM

looks pretty nice, and knowing bob long, its probably gonna perform very nicely. Im wondering if theyre going to be very similar, just like before, since the new B2ks are arranged A LOT like timmies now.

**bobide** · November 25th, 09:59 PM

How are the new b2ks more timmy like? I thought the only new thing was the clamshell, which i guess makes it pretty timmy like. OH! new question! Does the b2k5 having the clamshell make it possible to use timmy boards? I know it can use the timmy triggers now (SCORE!)

Also...since the defiant is so fricking small and tiny, do u think it might compete w/ the shocker? JW there.

**BakerSkate** · November 25th, 10:10 PM

Whoops sorry..

**Carmas** · November 25th, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobide

How are the new b2ks more timmy like? I thought the only new thing was the clamshell, which i guess makes it pretty timmy like. OH! new question! Does the b2k5 having the clamshell make it possible to use timmy boards? I know it can use the timmy triggers now (SCORE!)

Also...since the defiant is so fricking small and tiny, do u think it might compete w/ the shocker? JW there.

Eh i dunno i dont even know why i posted saying that really..
The internals are supposed to be a lot better, and the guns supposed to rip. The clamshell and trayless thing just brings it closer to timmy-ness, and all those pneumatic tubes are all running around the grip frame now..

**wackwar** · November 26th, 09:45 AM

icd and bob long have really outdone themselves this time, all the improvements with the same retail price (at least the b2k5).

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 26th, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bobide

How are the new b2ks more timmy like? I thought the only new thing was the clamshell, which i guess makes it pretty timmy like. OH! new question! Does the b2k5 having the clamshell make it possible to use timmy boards? I know it can use the timmy triggers now (SCORE!)

Also...since the defiant is so fricking small and tiny, do u think it might compete w/ the shocker? JW there.

I think the freestyle is what will be competing with the shocker. I think both the new defiant and the new bushy will be good competition though. One thing is for sure, they'll both own the hell out of impys.

SpYder craZy · November 26th, 04:01 PM

greg from ICD says that the new defiant is not like the b2k4/5 at all. It is a completly different design. My guess is that it will perform the same though.

**chromekilla** · November 28th, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BakerSkate

Whoops sorry..

shut up nublet, go bet banned again

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One thing is for sure, they'll both own the hell out of impys.

so very true mah friend, only imp worth buying nowadays is a shockteck one, and no one witha brain is going to buy an imp for $1100

i seriously cant wait to shoot one of these

**BakerSkate** · November 29th, 06:44 PM

I said sorry. What's your problem?

**pball4sissies** · November 29th, 06:51 PM

dude. no. you can't just say sorry. you asshat.

**Mangobutter** · November 29th, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BakerSkate

I said sorry you douche.

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Originally Posted by Pball4sissies

dude. no. you can't just say sorry. you asshat.

wow theres alot of love in these forums any ways, my friend has one of the older deifents and he realy likes it and i have a b2k4 so i guess they are kinda the same... i want one they look awsome

**Jrow17** · November 29th, 10:35 PM

anyone have better pics yet??