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russell_pta · January 17th, 10:25 PM

i searched it and never found a comparison. what is the diff between the virtue board and the blackheart board. i see that the blackheart comes with new eyes, and looks like it is more of a drop in than the virtue, but i want quality. blackheart says 20bps and virtue i can't really find. virtue is like 140 bucks and you may have to get new eyes.... blackheart kit is only 100 bucks. what do you guys think, is virtue that much better? also do i have to spend more money on virtue eyes?

i also read about the t-board, is that compareable. it's on ebay for 80 bucks.

russell_pta · January 17th, 11:17 PM

ok, after about 3 hours of intensive research, i have come to like the t-board the most, plus the price tag of 78 bucks is very nice

i still want comments on which one to get, but i do have one big question. it says that it has unlimited fireing rate, is that in semi only or is that ramping also? if not, what is the cap on ramping for the t-board?

russell_pta · January 18th, 08:10 PM

anyone? im thinking about getting the t-board, anyone have one?

**evolkers2003** · January 18th, 11:31 PM

Yes, tboard over any other. Virtue over blackheart, cause teh blackheart isnt very good at all. Tboards are fast and have everything you wan tin a board, and half the price of a virtue.

russell_pta · January 19th, 07:42 AM

sweet. done deal

im gonna get the tboard.

JH · January 19th, 07:54 AM

t-board is the way to go. cheaper. just as fast and good.

**evolkers2003** · January 19th, 10:49 AM

If you ever have any trouble with it there is a thread in PbNation were Damon (the guy who runs scenerio dreams llc) goes and answers questions along with other people who know alot about the tboard.

**kenny_1491** · January 19th, 12:43 PM

for the price, t-board all the way. but for quality lucky spitfire board is where it is at.

**evolkers2003** · January 19th, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny_1491

for the price, t-board all the way. but for quality lucky spitfire board is where it is at.

Ive heard alot of people like the lucky, also the raider is siad to be nice. Virtue has a lifetime warranty dont they? I wouldt even consider a blackheart in the running, as they have minimul performance upgrades. I havnt done a ton of board research on the newer ones but when i was gonna get my new board i would have chosen the Tboard, but then i sold my ION so...

**kenny_1491** · January 19th, 01:46 PM

well the t-board comes with the simple modes, but no customization if I remember correctly, but the spitfire comes fully customizable, with mettle hoses so no hoses flying off at high rates of fire. what is the raider board? I haven't heard of it before, who makes it? and before somebody says the tadao ion board is pretty much a blackheart from what I saw.

**evolkers2003** · January 19th, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny_1491

well the t-board comes with the simple modes, but no customization if I remember correctly, but the spitfire comes fully customizable, with mettle hoses so no hoses flying off at high rates of fire. what is the raider board? I haven't heard of it before, who makes it? and before somebody says the tadao ion board is pretty much a blackheart from what I saw.

O gawd, i cant remember who makes it. I beleive it is tadao but someone siad it had teh best solenoid out of any board and i geuss that makes a difference to some people, i dont mind as long as it deosnt break. Mettle hoses? Is that the blue hose.

**kenny_1491** · January 19th, 01:56 PM

h/o let me go check, I'll do some research on that board, if it is the tadao one then it really isn't much of a performance upgrade from what I have heard.

EDIT: the spitfire board is the one with the mettle hoses, the tadao board looks pretty good but the lucky board is better from my knowledge. the lucky board ahs everything the tadao board does, except it has the hard noid with qev, and mettle hoses and barbs. the hoses on the tadao are rubber hoses from the looks of them.

russell_pta · January 21st, 04:29 PM

ok, still on topic i hope. after i get the board, i want to up my gun to shoot FAST. i got a qev, getting a firebolt, got ndz spring detents, got a warrior trigger. what else upps your speed? i have a halo b.

thanks,
russell

**evolkers2003** · January 21st, 05:31 PM

I cringed reading you have a warrior upgrade, there bolts havnt been too credible. Your gonna have it going about as fast as you can from my knowledge. I would get a new feedneck cause teh stock one sucks. Also get a on/off or you will pay for it in the long run

russell_pta · January 21st, 10:54 PM

oh, the warrior is only the trigger. it's a rolling trigger with dual ball bearings. my bolt is firebolt.

so far i have upgraded:

warrior trigger
firebolt
ndz spring detents
360 qev

in the future:

t-board
q-lock low rise feed
new grips
cp regulator
freak jr. barrel kit
HPA tank

i also bought some dye invision goggles this weekend

p.s. why would i pay for not having an on/off? just the loss of gas?

RB · January 21st, 11:01 PM

You dont have an HPA tank yet?

russell_pta · January 21st, 11:50 PM

not yet. i know flame me if u wish

im getting one soon. i have only put 1 case through it so far. i can't find a good used one that i like.

**kenny_1491** · January 22nd, 01:57 PM

before you get all of the rest of the upgrades, get an hpa tank. and don't get the freak j.r., they are okay but you will have a time cleaning themselves out and one you chop(which you will do) you won't be able to hit the bunker the guy is hiding behind much less him.

just get a nice two piece barrel (ultra-lite, and many others do some researching on them). and as for hpa tank Carlton is a nice company, they come with crossfire regs and are pretty cheap for the quality of the tank.

**evolkers2003** · January 22nd, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by russell_pta

oh, the warrior is only the trigger. it's a rolling trigger with dual ball bearings. my bolt is firebolt.

so far i have upgraded:

warrior trigger
firebolt
ndz spring detents
360 qev

in the future:

HPA tank
q-lock low rise feed
On/off
Deadly wind, pepperstik, freak, CP, sfiffi
CP reg
Tboard
new grips

i also bought some dye invision goggles this weekend

p.s. why would i pay for not having an on/off? just the loss of gas?

I ranked them in teh importance i felt they were. Some are hard decisions but thats teh path i would take.

If you unscrew your tank while under pressure it will screw up the threads on you asa and the tank. I did it on my HPA tank, and it almost cost me $80 for a new reg. Luckily i had a Centerflag tank that can be rebuilt cheap so it cost me only like $10. Add on top of that the $40 for a new on/off. You can, however, prolong the life of the tank by shooting while you unscrew it. This will help alot, but in the long run it will still screw up the threads.

O, and on a final note... Profiler>invision..........

**kenny_1491** · January 22nd, 08:28 PM

QFT invisions are not really that good. I use a profiler and love it