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***rywynn_13*** · May 28th, 10:26 AM

I am wondering what would be a better buy spyder imagine w/ t board... drop forward.....jj ceramic barrel...and evo II w/ z board for 300 ..... or the new spyder electra w/ jj ceramic barrel and evo II hopper w/ z board for 370???

***b2k guy*** · May 28th, 10:29 AM

i am gonna say the imagine... a spyder is a spyder.. not much diffrent at all...plus it has more ups and is cheaper...

***rywynn_13*** · May 28th, 10:30 AM

ok thnx but does anyone no how fast the imagine will shoot w/ t board...i no it is uncapped but wat is a reasonable bps to reach?

**Spec74** · May 28th, 11:28 AM

An average person will able to shoot about 8-12 bps... but after practice you could up to 21 if you're really good

EnergizerBunny · May 28th, 02:41 PM

imagine just because of the tboard tho.

**Ahmadi6490** · May 28th, 09:05 PM

If you got the Imagine setup, you'd totally own and not chop as much. The Electra is gunna chop like crazy.

**Spec74** · May 29th, 12:21 AM

It doesn't matter what marker you get... They're "ALL" the same.

One marker won't chop more than the other. It's the upgrades that help from chopping

**Ahmadi6490** · May 29th, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spec74

It doesn't matter what marker you get... They're "ALL" the same.

One marker won't chop more than the other. It's the upgrades that help from chopping

Wrong, the Electra has the Rocking Trigger and no eyes. What's that mean? Chop time. The Imagine is capped at 14bps, all you need with that is a good hopper and you really won't chop. Maybe an aftermarket bolt too if he has some extra cash.

Even if you put a Halo on the Electra, btw you can because of the dual detents there's still going to be chops w/out eyes. If the Electra came stock with eyes or if you got eyes installed, then i'd be a pretty good gun. But again its a Spyder and blowback makes it still chop some more.

EnergizerBunny · May 29th, 11:15 AM

the imagine has a tboard.....nothing compares.

***b2k guy*** · May 29th, 12:40 PM

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Wrong, the Electra has the Rocking Trigger and no eyes. What's that mean? Chop time. The Imagine is capped at 14bps, all you need with that is a good hopper and you really won't chop. Maybe an aftermarket bolt too if he has some extra cash

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first the imagine is capped at 13 a sec unles it is the select then 14.. second it has a t board on it... i forget what it is rated for but is alot faster...

**Ahmadi6490** · May 29th, 01:03 PM

I was talking about a stock Imagine, with the t board its unlimited rate of fire. That'd kill the 30 bps on the rocking trigger.

**Spec74** · June 1st, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahmadi6490

Wrong, the Electra has the Rocking Trigger and no eyes. What's that mean? Chop time. The Imagine is capped at 14bps, all you need with that is a good hopper and you really won't chop. Maybe an aftermarket bolt too if he has some extra cash.

Even if you put a Halo on the Electra, btw you can because of the dual detents there's still going to be chops w/out eyes. If the Electra came stock with eyes or if you got eyes installed, then i'd be a pretty good gun. But again its a Spyder and blowback makes it still chop some more.

you did read my quote carefully right? I said the Upgrades help. All the stock spyders are made the same. And because you have a good hopper isn't a guarantee that you won't chop. I've seen eggies and halos chop once in a while also. Only way to prevent chops is to get an eye system. One chops more than the other is because you're shooting at a higher BPS. meaning you'll need a better hopper but that isn't always the case

**Ahmadi6490** · June 2nd, 03:29 PM

You said "their" all the same and one gun won't chop more than the other. That's why I backed my statement up.

**Mistaslick09** · June 2nd, 08:06 PM

check my sig only $225 can go down lower

***nexizzle*** · June 2nd, 08:24 PM

i have a nexion with t board. the t board used to be capped at 36 but now its uncapped. ive never seen a blow back do 21 bps, and i dont belive it untill i see a vid, neways i think that u can accually get a new imagine with t board drop barrel and z boarded eggy for same if not cheaper, lets do the math 110 imagine, t board 50, 60 with eyes drop 25, barrel 35, z boarded egg u can get for 58 bucks now new so thats

110+50+25+35+68

298+ free shipping im sure cheaper and new

and any gun at all with out eyes is gonna chop even with that new pos antichop bolt that kingmans got out now what a waste of cash neways hope that helped

**Spec74** · June 4th, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmadi6490

You said "their" all the same and one gun won't chop more than the other. That's why I backed my statement up.

The construction is the same. What else do you think i was saying? And please read everything instead of just nick picking on quotes

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