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p8ntball1024 · January 17th, 10:20 PM

what can you do with a t-board that is so special. what is the ramping chip you can buy do uneed that or does it come with it. alsois a 25g switch or a 50 g switch better

p8ntball1024 · January 18th, 01:49 PM

does the t board come with the 25 g switch and the ramping chip

**HuNtS** · January 18th, 02:45 PM

a t-board allows a spyder to be a lot faster than stock, on the 25 or 50g switch, the 25g switch would be better for a lighter trigger pull if that's what you're going for. i'm not very good yet with all the different kinds of boards, but i know a little bit.

**mLuH** · January 18th, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HuNtS

a t-board allows a spyder to be a lot faster than stock, on the 25 or 50g switch, the 25g switch would be better for a lighter trigger pull if that's what you're going for. i'm not very good yet with all the different kinds of boards, but i know a little bit.

yeah i dont know a lot about them either, but i know that a tboard will dramatically increase your speed on a spyder. you should also get a fast hopper or eyes because you will chop if your hopper doesnt feed fast enough. if you have fast fingers, id say just go for a 50g switch, but if you have average to slow fingers, get the 25g, but if you get the 25g, remember to keep your fingers away from the trigger in the waiting area, cuz itll be really easy to make it shoot

***Lokbomb*** · January 18th, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by p8ntball1024

what can you do with a t-board that is so special. what is the ramping chip you can buy do uneed that or does it come with it. alsois a 25g switch or a 50 g switch better

go here....http://scenariodreams.com/productpages/esp.htm

36bps..... you need either the ramping chip or multimode chip. Also eyes plug in the Tborad....antichop eyes...... a 25g or 50g switch is too light, you will bounce too much, sty with the stock 250G.... IMO..... goto the website and read about the TBoard.

Torch · January 18th, 04:16 PM

you don't need to buy one of the chips, unless you want to. The board comes with everything needed to shoot true semi-auto.

Main advantage to the T-board over the stock board is the uncapped ROF and the ability to install eyes.

The ramp chip...well it adds programable ramping modes. It's not smooth ramping, so it'll be pretty obvious you have it installed to anyone that doesn't want you using it. It can be turned off.

The T chip adds the modes that a normal Imagine will have like burst or auto.

But the board itself comes with a semi-auto chip installed.

25g or 50g is the force the switch takes to activate. You also will have the trigger return (spring or magnets) and any other resistance adding to the weight.

p8ntball1024 · January 18th, 06:36 PM

thank you i need to practice for tourney so im probly goin to get the 25 g switch and a multimode chip. ( to put in later) the t-board. halo hopper. 68/3000 carbon wrapeed tank and a few other thing. regulator. and a barrell

**mavsfan31** · January 18th, 07:04 PM

You will be taken a joke if you don't get a tourney level gun. If you want to go anywhere in paintball, do yourself a favor and buy a new gun. No sense upping a gun only to less it for less. You will look back and kick yourself later on...trust me.

p8ntball1024 · January 18th, 07:28 PM

cant afford anything else
plus i dont play nepl yet. im playing money tournaments at planet paintball to earn money for a good gun

Torch · January 18th, 07:46 PM

I bet the tournament won't allow any of the modes the t-chip offers except true semi, so think about saving $20 or so.

For the money a lot of people spend upgrading a spyder, they really can get something like one of the BKO series markers or as much as I hate to say it an Ion.

***Lokbomb*** · January 19th, 01:32 AM

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I bet the tournament won't allow any of the modes the t-chip offers except true semi, so think about saving $20 or so.

For the money a lot of people spend upgrading a spyder, they really can get something like one of the BKO series markers or as much as I hate to say it an Ion.

Thats true, some new elctro pneumatics are really cheap now..... ICD bushmaster for under $200 and the Ion under $300. But high end Spyders are just as good if not better than cheap electro-p's plus IMO the combo is 80% player and 20% marker... give a noob an ION and he's still in-experienced

**sick_dawg** · January 19th, 01:46 AM

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But high end Spyders are just as good if not better than cheap electro-p's

Spyders are great markers, but they cant be anything but low end. A Very nice spyder will perform well, but put the same amount of money into an ion or a b2k4 and you have a MUCH better gun. Even stock a b2k4 or ion will outperform an upped spyder.

As long as it is a blowback, there will still be many things about it that make it not as good as an electro-pneum...

***Lokbomb*** · January 19th, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sick_dawg5440

Spyders are great markers, but they cant be anything but low end. A Very nice spyder will perform well, but put the same amount of money into an ion or a b2k4 and you have a MUCH better gun. Even stock a b2k4 or ion will outperform an upped spyder.

As long as it is a blowback, there will still be many things about it that make it not as good as an electro-pneum...

I dont agree... why would it be a MUCH better marker??? My Spyder will out perform an ION...being a blowback dosent mean it dosent work...or works poorly.... theres nothing wrong with blowbacks.. Electo-p's are just quieter and I know they operate differently. Many people think just cuz its more expensive its better.... we could argue all day...but in my opinion I like blowbacks and Electo-p's.... too. I just dont like hearing...its a blowback its a piece of s@#t.... thats not right.....

**sick_dawg** · January 19th, 03:37 AM

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I dont agree... why would it be a MUCH better marker??? My Spyder will out perform an ION...being a blowback dosent mean it dosent work...or works poorly.... theres nothing wrong with blowbacks.. Electo-p's are just quieter and I know they operate differently. Many people think just cuz its more expensive its better.... we could argue all day...but in my opinion I like blowbacks and Electo-p's.... too. I just dont like hearing...its a blowback its a piece of s@#t.... thats not right.....

I never said that blowbacks were pieces of ****, but they also are not as good as an electro pneum. The main problem with blowbacks is that they tend to prduce a lot of kick, a lot more then mid-high end electro-pneumatic guns. You get a TON smoother feel when shooting an ion compared to a spyder.

Like I said, I have nothing against spyders. I have an e99 that I upgraded a bit when I first started playing, and I use it occasionally when I feel like it, and it is a good reliable gun. I used to think that it would be as good as all the other guns until I actually shot quite a few other guns.

***kazoo*** · January 19th, 12:40 PM

Blowbacks and pos's. Most people over exaggerate(sp?) about blowbacks being bad. I do prefer an electro-pneumatic over a blowback because when i shot an upp'd spyder i was shooting waves and couldn't hold the maker steady. With an electro P I just rip. Most people that have upp'd blowbacks get used 2 the kick.

**HuNtS** · January 19th, 02:08 PM

it definitely would be a good idea if it would be possible to save up for an electro-p, but really.. dont go too nuts on your spyder unless you truly believe it'll be the only gun you'll ever own.

**butterjuice** · January 19th, 03:01 PM

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I dont agree... why would it be a MUCH better marker??? My Spyder will out perform an ION...being a blowback dosent mean it dosent work...or works poorly.... theres nothing wrong with blowbacks.. Electo-p's are just quieter and I know they operate differently. Many people think just cuz its more expensive its better.... we could argue all day...but in my opinion I like blowbacks and Electo-p's.... too. I just dont like hearing...its a blowback its a piece of s@#t.... thats not right.....

we have been arguing about this for years.....

new ppl keep coming and starting new wars about it and the person who starts it always looses....in this case.....you

.....stop being biased about your imagine.....sure it may be good and stuff but an ion or any other high end gun will still perform better....as already stated above me....

now plz stop resisting the knowledge that we are trying to put into your brain....just accept it....your imagine won't be able to compete with higher end guns....thats y they cost more....

and u were partly rigth about the whole its not the gun its the player thing....but the gun sure as hell helps....

....thank you.....this discussion is over....

***Lokbomb*** · January 20th, 01:29 AM

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we have been arguing about this for years.....

new ppl keep coming and starting new wars about it and the person who starts it always looses....in this case.....you

.....stop being biased about your imagine.....sure it may be good and stuff but an ion or any other high end gun will still perform better....as already stated above me....

now plz stop resisting the knowledge that we are trying to put into your brain....just accept it....your imagine won't be able to compete with higher end guns....thats y they cost more....

and u were partly rigth about the whole its not the gun its the player thing....but the gun sure as hell helps....

....thank you.....this discussion is over....

I think this is for the other guy, I dont own an imagine and in not starting any type of war...just a discussion.... so no-one loses anything.......