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drummerboy1864 · July 16th, 06:08 PM

Ok so ive had this tl-x for about a year and done just about everything to it. and have put over $300 into it, and this thing is a beast now. but it has sooo much more potential. it should be able to shoot about 30-40bps. but my finger wont go any faster than maybe 10-12bps. and this trigger although fairly light its still sticks out alittle far.

i first looked into a light and shallow trigger but i can seem to find one for a mechanical spyder. so i read on another forum that with spyders the only thing that makes them electric is the trigger frame, and i guess it just trips the striker/bolt repeatedly. so i might just buy a spyder e-trigger frame. and put an electra board in it to spit out 36bps.

even though this seems like a waste of time and money, when i walk out on the field everyone sees my little spyder tl-x and immediately underestimates it. then the game starts and i get to just spray paint all over them. but i still cant compete with the autos, going up against an ion isn't as hard with my tl-x being souped up, but its still a bit of a set back. id still love to keep the tl-x and have it automatic.

so does anyone here please know enough about spyders to tell me if this would work. is my information accurate?

RB · July 16th, 07:49 PM

No, it will not do over 20bps.

Yes, it is that easy to make it electric.

drummerboy1864 · July 16th, 08:09 PM

why wont it do over 20bps? if i just replace the chip in the trigger frame with a t-board for the electra, its advertised to go 36bps?

**Nor*Tex** · July 16th, 08:15 PM

I happen to have a eframe goldwaved at 15 bps forsale, look at my sig

Back on subject, it will never go what its advertised.

**Torch** · July 16th, 08:19 PM

You'll get a big performance increase by strapping an electric frame on it.

But there are limits. The BPS rating is just there to sell the product.

Really, a spyder in run-away full auto could 'shoot' near 40-50 times in a second with no electric parts added at all. But it isn't practical to set it up that way and creates more problems than its worth.

RB · July 16th, 08:28 PM

Run away being-there is nothing there to catch the hammer when it comes back. IE-its just bouncing and bouncing.

But, since no hopper is that fast...

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drummerboy1864 · July 17th, 12:59 AM

i think i just read somewhere that the t-board has eyes? are the eyes in the e-frame, i though it was on the bolt or something.

and yea i dont think ill be even shooting over 20ish bps.

**mLuH** · July 17th, 01:10 AM

the eyes are in the body of the gun, right next to the detents, so it detects when a ball is or isnt there. and no, itll never shoot that fast, and I doubt youre shooting 10-12 bps on a tl-x mech trigger. (no offense)

drummerboy1864 · July 17th, 01:19 AM

lol, im a pretty experianced drummer my fingers have to be quick. btw i think someone on this forum just got 15bps on his mech.

but bottom line if i put an e-trigger frame on my tl-x would it be worth it? and if i put an upgraded board in it how fast would it shoot? so far ive gotten some negative feed back. but most people say putting on an e-trigger is a great improvement...

**mLuH** · July 17th, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy1864

lol, im a pretty experianced drummer my fingers have to be quick. btw i think someone on this forum just got 15bps on his mech.

but bottom line if i put an e-trigger frame on my tl-x would it be worth it? and if i put an upgraded board in it how fast would it shoot? so far ive gotten some negative feed back. but most people say putting on an e-trigger is a great improvement...

yes it will help a lot.

Someone might have gotten 15 bps on a mech mag, thats the only thing I can see going 15 bps mech.

**cb_neosythe** · July 17th, 01:27 AM

kid do you even know what walking the trigger is?

**PizzaMiLiTiA** · July 17th, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flowbob

Someone might have gotten 15 bps on a mech mag, thats the only thing I can see going 15 bps mech.

He could have been talking about someone's RT'd tippmann, or Mortisdeum's auto tippmann.

drummerboy1864 · July 17th, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cb_neosythe

kid do you even know what walking the trigger is?

lol, yes, and now you sound like the noob. and im hardley a kid.

**cb_neosythe** · July 18th, 03:31 AM

well i'm not the one claiming to shoot 15 on a spyder tlx....so uh stfu.

oh sorry 10-12 still pretty much impossible on a mech...lol

**HuNtS** · July 18th, 04:41 AM

dont spend any more money on your tl-x and get something better?

what upgrades have you spent >300$ on? can you list them all in here?

**txaggie08** · July 18th, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy1864

lol, im a pretty experianced drummer my fingers have to be quick. btw i think someone on this forum just got 15bps on his mech.

but bottom line if i put an e-trigger frame on my tl-x would it be worth it? and if i put an upgraded board in it how fast would it shoot? so far ive gotten some negative feed back. but most people say putting on an e-trigger is a great improvement...

Ive been playing percussion for 9 years, and theres no way its going to make you fingers limber enough to pull 15 on a stupid spyder. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. There have been mech Xvalved mag's hit thos kinds of speeds, but most of it was done with alot of R/T and wouldnt be legal at all in a tourny.

Most people cant pull a natural 15 on an e-trigger.....

**Torch** · July 18th, 10:38 PM

I'm not going to pick on your claims for speed or try to correct them, but here's a tip.

When anyone posts how fast they shoot on the internet, it won't be believed unless there's a posted video or sound recording to prove it. The sound file is taken into an editing program like goldwave and the actual shots are counted for one second of recording time.

Methods like "150 balls in the hopper and I shot them all in 10 seconds, so I shot 15BPS" are not taken as seriously.

E-frames are a great improvement, but when you boil it down it'll still be a spyder.
I have one, T-boarded and full low-pressure mods. I won't tell you to save your money, but Please know what you are getting into and have reasonable expectations.

If you're going to do it, Do it because you know what you'll end up with and want to. Not with the intention of trying to make a spyder into a top-shelf gun.

GWarrior2864 · July 19th, 12:01 AM

if you are shooting 10-12 on a mech tl-x then dont even get
an e-frame for it because then money you pay for it wont be
worth the extra 5-8 bps more you are shooting....

if you want to get a gun you can walk and put some money into
start with a better gun and you will end up putting less money into
it.....IMO spyders arent worth putting $300+ into

drummerboy1864 · July 19th, 02:47 PM

TL-X Setup:

TL-X Body
Boo-Ya e-trigger frame
T-board w/eyes
T-Board chip upgrade
Halo B Loader
AKA tornado valve
DHC Striker
Palmer Stabilizer Regulator
AKA lightning bolt
Vaporworks feed neck
ACP Thraser trigger
50g switch
Nitro 68/4500 tank
Freak Barrel kit

**Nor*Tex** · July 19th, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txaggie08

Ive been playing percussion for 9 years, and theres no way its going to make you fingers limber enough to pull 15 on a stupid spyder. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. There have been mech Xvalved mag's hit thos kinds of speeds, but most of it was done with alot of R/T and wouldnt be legal at all in a tourny.

Most people cant pull a natural 15 on an e-trigger.....

I can.

And heres my proof.

To drummerboy:

Dont get all that crap, most of its worthless, like a bolt and striker. The frame that achieved the 15 bps is for sale, as well as an ACS bolt, and a Trinity feedneck. Lemme know you you want any of it.