[kmcdon3960]

Hey, I've been using my oldschool tl+ for years now, and I recently went out and picked up a pilot ACS. I've been toying around with the idea of going to a t-board and q-loader, but before I forked out the money I was wondering if anyone had an estimate of how fast these guns can cycle. I'm aware that i need to get a new air setup, and that's in the works, but I'm not sure if I want to go forking out the money for a q-loader if i can't get around 20bps on the spyder internals anyway.

i've read a bunch of posts saying not to upgrade a spder because it's pointless, but I'm kind of stubborn and I like my spyders.

Thanks!

[BlueShox]

The Q loader isn't a very good idea, in my opinion. A halo will be fine. realistically, most professional paintball players have trouble shooting their guns faster than 15 bp/s consistantly on semi automatic. So I'd say you'll do fine with a Halo B hopper.

As far as the T board goes.. if you're really into the ACS, I'd say go for it. Not many people like upgrading Spyders, but I rocked a heavily uped TES for the first half of my paintball career, and it rarley broke down on me or didn't meet my performance needs. Most people don't like spyders and blowbacks because of the amount of kick they have, but I really never noticed too much of a problem with it.

I would suggest getting some breakbeam eyes too, though. But, aside from that, I'd say go for it, if you really like the ACS. High Preasure would be a good investment, too.

[kmcdon3960]

the new t-boards that just come out have eyes i think, and the friends i play with use full auto, and i am in love with my spyders (heh) i've heard great reviews on the t-boards, but it seems to me like they are ridicilously faster then the spyder can cycle (and i haven't noticed a problem with kick either)

[BlueShox]

Originally Posted by kmcdon3960

the new t-boards that just come out have eyes i think, and the friends i play with use full auto, and i am in love with my spyders (heh) i've heard great reviews on the t-boards, but it seems to me like they are ridicilously faster then the spyder can cycle (and i haven't noticed a problem with kick either)

most boards can shoot faster than your gun will cycle, but thats not a problem. It's not going to blow up your gun or anything. There's only a problem if you're gun is cycling faster than your board will let you shoot, but with the T board, there won't be any problems like that. I think the T board can be set at uncapped full auto, which is as fast as your gun can shoot.

there really are soo many things the T board can do, it's a great buy.
Order it right now

[TBDragonMan]

A spyder can cycle about 35 times per second, according to scenario dreams. Is it practical, NO. My Imagine on a t-board will empty 190 round hopper in 10 seconds on full auto, but I never play with it in full auto mode. It's cool and all but its a waste of paint and air. The new t-boards have all the mode like ramping and all, but remember most fields due to insurance reasons will not allow ramping or full auto on the field.