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**element503** · July 19th, 08:47 PM

is it really worth it to buy a kingman TL-X a 14" smartparts progressive barrel and a empire reloader all to put on the TL-X. people say sure its a good gun but some say dont waste ur money to trick out a spyder. whats true?

i dont want this to be a thread that totaly turns into another subject, just straight help, i know its a little selfish but i dont want to spend 228$ before im sure, thanks

**Stan** · July 19th, 08:49 PM

putting a barrel and hopper on your gun is not tricking it out, its just basic upgrades, i say go for it

**Error** · July 19th, 08:50 PM

well I would say its worth it I intend to spend 200$ on my victor II I am getting the one kit and I already have an Evil Driver

some people do say upgarding a spyder is a waste but I suspose thats just their opinion. The way I see it you can get a spyder to perform just as well as higher end guns with upgrades and Spyder's are much more reliable and much easier to fix.

Johnny_Fred · July 19th, 09:01 PM

i have a tl-x with a 14" smart parts barrel, barrel makes a huge improvement, and i recommend getting the esp frame if you get the empire reloader

**Error** · July 19th, 09:15 PM

esp frame is alright but if you want a really nice upgrade get "the one" kit. it's 200$ but it comes with other stuff to.
look here

the one kit changes your spyder to an air ram which is like a BKO

**Ahmadi6490** · July 19th, 11:14 PM

Do any upgrades that will improve your gun no matter wat type of gun u have.

themainevent · July 19th, 11:51 PM

If i had a spyder to upgrade, i would to the spyder to timmy conversion, there is a sticky on it at pbn

**impfanatic** · July 20th, 12:24 AM

well putting a barrel and a hopper on a gun is not fully pimpin it out you should def. do those upgrades then after you do those start saving up for a higher end gun..

**element503** · July 20th, 12:24 AM

im getting a dye sticky grip, 14" progressive barrel, empire reloader, bigger drop forward

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**Error** · July 20th, 12:29 AM

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im getting a dye sticky grip, 14" progressive barrel, empire reloader, bigger drop forward

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don't get the empire reloader. its not bad I just think you would save 50$ if you just saved for a Halo B. you don't really need a fast hopper yet so just save for the Halo B

and you should really check out the one kit.

**element503** · July 20th, 12:37 AM

oh, i dont really want a halo arent they like 100 dollarz?

**Error** · July 20th, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by element503

oh, i dont really want a halo arent they like 100 dollarz?

I think around like 140 for the better ones but I guess if you don't want one of the faster ones the Empire Reloader would be the best choice.

**spyderguy15** · July 20th, 10:06 PM

Dude he doesn't need a Halo B for a mech spyder.

**1nd1an** · July 21st, 12:13 AM

im actually getting the 14inch prog barrel, empire reloaded which loads at around 15 bps, then the one kit, so i would say stick with the spyder tlx, its a great gun, and wif the one kit it becomes a godly upgrade

but the one kit can shoot way over 25 bps, so then you would have to get a halo hopper

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