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**Gootch** · July 26th, 04:17 PM

I was sure I had read about this problem here before, but after a search turned up nothing I am hoping someone can help out.

For the last few weeks I have had trouble with my Imagine firing twice, very quickly, with just one trigger pull. This may happen 1 out of 3 times, or in some games not at all. Sometimes it's a real pain, doing it a lot, and I haven't found any pattern to it.

I was thinking the sear/trigger thing but I don't know enough about it right now to take it apart and look if there is a problem.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Oh, and otherwise it works just fine, the entire marker that is.

**CmaN3** · July 26th, 04:42 PM

It could be that your sear is a little bit worn. I think that that is the problem. But you should wait till someone like fiki posts, who know far more about spyders than i do.

**KingFikiElectra** · July 26th, 06:55 PM

I hear this problem alot. This is one of the more complex ones so I just need u to anwser a few questions.

1. When it does double fire does the gun click one (normal) or twice (weird)?

2. Is the second shot not as powerfull as the first?

If u awnser that I can probably pin point the problem.

**Gootch** · July 26th, 08:32 PM

When it fires twice it sounds and feels like a normal fire except that it does it again just incredibly fast.

I haven't noticed another click, I suppose it's possible but I don't remember it ever doing that.
The first shot a ball comes out, but it seems that the second shot is so fast that there is no time for another ball to load.

I have tried pulling the trigger one time very purposefully to make sure it's not my actual trigger, it still may sometimes double shoot.

Hope that gives the info you need.
Thanks

**Badinflewinse** · July 26th, 09:44 PM

I had the same problem. All i did was took off my grip and made sure all the wires were normal and in good shape, turn my gun off and back on and played again, and took off my co2 and put it back on. It stopped after i did that.

Edit: Also had a friend look at it so he could've solved it doing some mysterious thing.

**KingFikiElectra** · July 26th, 09:46 PM

Well I think its just that the sear dosnt catch the striker occasinally so it "re relases" the striker to fire again. Im thinking of a way to fix it. Hmmmm. Well first I would try and look at the sear if there is any flaw. If u do find any flaw in it then report it here. Same goes with the striker.

**Charger** · July 26th, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingFikiElectra

1. When it does double fire does the gun click one (normal) or twice (weird)?

2. Is the second shot not as powerfull as the first?

hmmm i will do this to lol
1. my gun clicks twice
2. the second one is the same as the first

whats wrong with mine?

**KingFikiElectra** · July 26th, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charger

hmmm i will do this to lol
1. my gun clicks twice
2. the second one is the same as the first

whats wrong with mine?

Grip frame problem

. Faulty wiring my guess.

If it clicked once and the ball was not as powerfull as the first then the dwell would have been altered when the striker missed the sear. Theoretically if it was that scenario.

**Charger** · July 26th, 10:41 PM

my gun only has on and off...

**KingFikiElectra** · July 26th, 11:35 PM

Thats cool. LoL

**TheSpyder** · July 27th, 07:27 PM

My gun did this once, but instead it shot one, and the second one seemed to pop the second it left the barrel, so it was one paintball, being followed by a casing and flying paint / mist.

**D FO** · July 28th, 01:07 AM

ive had this problem and for somereason i guess it fixed it self it may be because you shoot your gun alot without co2 that can damage your piston so dont click your gun without co2

**Mangudai** · July 28th, 05:14 AM

^^ errr?

**Gootch** · July 28th, 06:59 AM

I rarely get any broken balls so I don't think it's giving it time to load another ball. I can also rule out the firing without Co2 deal also since I may have fired twice without Co2 (when the bottle emptied).

I am going to file and sand the striker since it seems to be the only thing that looks like it isn't perfect. I have faith that it'll work since it makes sense. Thanks all.

Just an edit to assure everyone that I do know what part to sand and that I won't be creating a friciton nightmare.

**Javaman** · July 28th, 09:08 AM

I bet it's a weakened seer spring. If the problem gets worse that would be the first thing I check. Once it starts to wear out the seer may not return fast enough to catch the striker. Either that or maybe the solonoid didn't release quickly enough. I'm not sure how to fix it if that's the problem apart from changing the battery. Mine does the double firing occasionally but it hadn't gotten bad enough for me to bother fixing it.

**KingFikiElectra** · July 28th, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javaman

I bet it's a weakened seer spring. If the problem gets worse that would be the first thing I check. Once it starts to wear out the seer may not return fast enough to catch the striker. Either that or maybe the solonoid didn't release quickly enough. I'm not sure how to fix it if that's the problem apart from changing the battery. Mine does the double firing occasionally but it hadn't gotten bad enough for me to bother fixing it.

Thats something I over looked to. Try replacing the spring under the sear with one from a clicky pen. Pilot pens work the best.

**Gootch** · August 6th, 08:47 PM

OK, I am going to take a look at how complicated replacing the sear spring is. I did take it apart and try filing the striker a bit, man that is some hardened metal. I tried firing and it was still pretty bad. I did notice that it only clicked once, every time so I believe the problem is identified. Just have to figure out a way to solve it.

Question - How would I sand/file the sear? Can I file/sand the sear? I see it is slightly rounded and I would like to be sure everything is ok, is there anything I can do to try to repair it without taking the chance of ruining it?

Is there a trick to getting the sear pin out? I gave it a pretty good try with no progress whatsoever. Now, I am not a mechanical wizard but I am good at working on stuff. I didn't think it would be all that difficult, apparently I was wrong.

**Javaman** · August 6th, 09:59 PM

Don't file the seer down anymore! That would likely make the problem worse since it's already not catching. Since it is only kicking the solenoid once I stand by my theory that it's the seer spring. Try removing it and stretching it out a bit. If you add to much tension to it the worse that could happen is that the solenoid might not have enough kick to fire it. Just clip a couple of coils or unstretch it.

**Gootch** · August 7th, 07:52 AM

I used the press at work and got the pin out, then replaced the spring with one from a pen. Not real sure if it's going to help though, for some reason I'm just pessimistic about it.
I was thinking though that I could change back to the stock striker spring (I had one from the 32 degrees spring kit), I think that would make it so there is less pressure exerted on the striker while catching. I hate to do that though since I don't believe I should have to to fix it.
Anyway, as soon as I fire it I will most likely be back here asking for more suggestions

**Javaman** · August 7th, 09:49 AM

Is the pen spring stronger then the seer one? Another thing that could cause it is the striker for some reason isn't getting enough air on the first cycle to kick it far enough back for the seer to catch it. Are you using the strongest spring from the 32 degrees kit? That could very well be part of the problem. Stronger springs will only add so much velocity before you get diminished returns leading to recocking problems. Are you running a regulator? If you run too low of a pressure you could be very close to the threshhold of recocking problems leading to intermittent catching.