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August 2nd, 10:20 AM
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Ouch that hurt!
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Damage from Dry Firing?
My Nexion manual makes a big deal out of not dry firing.
What damage can this do? If I can't dry fire, how do I release the remaining air pressure from the gun after I remove the tank? From the regulator on up there is still air in the gun. I assume I should relieve that pressure somehow?
Thanks!
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August 2nd, 10:31 AM
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u can get an on/off if u want, that stops the air from what seems to be escaping the tank. dry firing really doesnt do anything at all besides waste air. ur gun wont break if thats what u want to know.
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August 2nd, 12:19 PM
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Well even after I remove the tank, the pressure guage still reads pressure, so there is air past the regulator and into the xchamber, etc behind the valve. Will storing the gun with this pressure there hurt anything, wear orings faster etc ?
My regulator has a check valve so that when I remove the tank the air stays in the bottom line etc....
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August 2nd, 12:25 PM
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The only thing i could see damaging the gun from dry firing is the venturi in the bolt. I've heard people say they have shot out their venturi when dry firing. But that's more of a bonus in my opinion. I dry fire my spyder imigane and nothing bad has happened. Nothing has worn down or broke. Ask kingman for reasons why not to dry fire.
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August 2nd, 06:41 PM
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I would get the air out of the reg, no use in storing it with air in it. It won't hurt anything at all to dry fire. just bleed the air out and your fine.
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August 2nd, 06:48 PM
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Storing it with air in it will wear down you o-rings. Dry firing will NOT do anything.
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August 2nd, 07:35 PM
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it WILL, however cause wear-and tear on things, such as maybe scratching up your internals, wear on sear, o-rings,and such, just normal wear just as if you had paint in it. So, its like your just using your gun more, so you should keep it lubed and maintained.
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August 2nd, 09:20 PM
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So dry firing is the only way to get the air out short of taking things apart with tools correct?
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August 2nd, 09:33 PM
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So dry firing is the only way to get the air out short of taking things apart with tools correct?
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um, sorry, but can you rephrase that? i didn't get it. 0?
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August 3rd, 12:56 AM
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um, sorry, but can you rephrase that? i didn't get it. 0?
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August 3rd, 09:18 AM
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Ouch that hurt!
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When the bottle is removed from the gun, the pressure gauge still shows pressure inside the gun. How can I relieve that pressure. The posts above say that storing the gun with pressure in it can do damage long term. The reg has a one way check valve, so when the bottle is removed, the reg, bottomline, and x-chamber remain pressurised. Is dry firing a few times the only way to relieve this without taking something loose with tools, like loosening the bottomline?
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August 3rd, 09:31 AM
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yes, if theres air in the gun after you take your tank off, cock it and dry fire it. I was just saying like if you waste a whole tank of air just shooting, then your gun will get some wear and tear. But just a few shots won't hurt.
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August 3rd, 09:47 AM
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Ouch that hurt!
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OK cool, thanks. Just didnt think it would be a good idea to store the gun with some pressure left in it.....
Thanks!
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August 3rd, 10:49 AM
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Dry firing will cause no more damage to the gun then firing it with paintballs. Storing it charged is not really recommended because of safety reasons. It could also potentially damage your cup seal. Normally it wouldn't be a problem and might even create a better seal as the cup seal is forcefully pressed and molded against the valve assembly. The problem is that if the valve face isn't perfectly smooth the damage will be more likely to transfer to the cup seal over time, which since it freely turns could cause a leak. There's only a small chance of that happening. Your air will likely leak out slowly over a period of time anyways.
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August 4th, 12:26 PM
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Im pretty sure the manual is refering to dry firing as with no gas in the gun. If there is pressure it would be fine firing it. Its the same as if there were paint in it.
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August 4th, 03:41 PM
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If you are firing to degas, only the final shot is dry, so to speak. It shouldn't harm your gun.
I've noticed on one of my nefew's Imagines that the striker has a ring pounded into its face, probably made by the valve. I have to assume this was caused by dry firing (completely gas-less).
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August 5th, 07:27 AM
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Unless you need to dry fire just dont because it causes natural wear and tear
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