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**vip3r87** · September 11th, 04:46 PM

Hello all, im new into the sport of paintballing, and am into the market of buying a marker package, im gunna be getting it on ebay, cuz its the cheapest canadian selling site...if that made sence, lol

any ways, im looking at either a XTRA or Victor II, i may even consider the TL-x, but thats a little out of my price range, my main concern is accuracy at stock, later on i will be getting a new barrel, but thats later on... so out of the 3, what one has the best accuracy, and if any one has tested these, what are the shot groupings at 100 feet and such

thanks all, ive also read from here(or maybe another forum!?) that all spyder mechs are the same at stock, help me clarify this, as all im looking for is decent accuracy at stock,
Thanks All, Vip3r87

**KingFikiElectra** · September 11th, 05:11 PM

Out of those 3 I would go with the xtra. It is cheap and is not entirely platic like the Victor 2. They all will preform the same though. Identically the same. I think it would be wise to get a new barrel now. A proggressive barrel would be good for 35$. Helps alot. I MEAN ALOT. Also there are free upgrades that you can do to your gun hear. www.ottersccustoms.com . Helps alot. Polish the intenals and also remove the venturi. Its not as hard as it sounds. i know you might be a little sketch on if you can do any of this or not but this forum is behind u the whole way

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Also you would need a mask and a co2 tank and also a hopper. So make sure you get the package deal. Also can you tell me your budget? That would help.

**vip3r87** · September 11th, 05:14 PM

thanks king, i live in canada, thats why ebay is my best bet, its about 200 CAD, i found a package with the xtra, 20oz co2, 200rd hopper, v-force mask or sumtin, 4 posds with harness, squegee and oil...for $178.20, thats CANADIAN dont forget, but if u can find me a better deal, thatd be sweeeeeet

**KingFikiElectra** · September 11th, 06:19 PM

No thats acctually pretty good

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**Ahmadi6490** · September 12th, 12:16 PM

Well you won't find a gun with good accuracy stocked unless it has a good barrel which paintball gun companys can't make good barrels so buy somethign cheap and then buy yourself a barrel for about $40.

~~~Glad To Help~~~

**vip3r87** · September 12th, 05:47 PM

hmm, ok, thanks, so which will be the most accurate, i kno i asked this, but i can get the same kit but with victor II for $140 CAD. so out of the xtra and victor II, which has bet stock accuracy, thanks

**Mr_Pain** · September 13th, 01:36 AM

the rodeo I have read is the best spyder at stock level, you might consider looking into that.

**KitoAce** · September 13th, 12:20 PM

yea i read that over at PBreview it had good ratings all round (rodeo that is)

i have one , glad i bought it instead of that trench coat i was gonna

**vip3r87** · September 14th, 06:15 PM

well im now leaning towards the victorII because i hear you cant drop the fps to under 280(correct me if im wrong) and the victorII looks better IMO, please help me find a good package on ebay.ca, ineed goggles, 20oz tank, gun, pods n harness(if possible) for under 180 please, thanks alot guys

**lovetocheat69** · September 14th, 06:19 PM

Negative. The velocity is fully adjustable with all spyder guns. Sometimes you may need a different spring though if you have to get a much lower or higher fps.

**vip3r87** · September 14th, 07:39 PM

Here

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* We should note that we could only slow the velocity down to about 270 fps, so you may want to consider buying a spring kit for the Xtra if you wish to you use it at speeds less then 270 fps.

Now im not sure, but for some reason, the Victor II appeals to me, must be me, but it looks nice, heard good things bout it, and its cheap, (I dont have a job, i quit, im 15yo btw) so my budget is quite tight, but if you can find me some cheap alternative, thatd be great

**doatec2k3** · September 20th, 08:58 PM

I bought the Victor II. The body is aluminum and the trigger fram (I think) is composite. This is okay considering by next year I will probably have an E-Frame. Plus, I like the rubber "bike grip" on the Victor. With such a small price diff between the Xtra and VII, it's all personal preferance.

**Avenger1000** · September 21st, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vip3r87

thanks king, i live in canada, thats why ebay is my best bet, its about 200 CAD, i found a package with the xtra, 20oz co2, 200rd hopper, v-force mask or sumtin, 4 posds with harness, squegee and oil...for $178.20, thats CANADIAN dont forget, but if u can find me a better deal, thatd be sweeeeeet

Hey man... I tried to use ebay.. thumbs down it was too hard... but neways, i dont know if you know about this site(pmed you) but i bout my imagine offa there a pinvalve for my tank and came with a free marker sleeve

240....
im canadian too.... T.o

**KingFikiElectra** · September 21st, 09:07 PM

The site wouldnt have gone through because we are sponsered by www.xpaintball.com so if u post a competetors site. Wont come up.

**Avenger1000** · September 22nd, 03:13 PM

wow thats pretty gay... but i guess it makes sense...

**sick_dawg** · September 22nd, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenger1000

wow thats pretty gay... but i guess it makes sense...

Actually it isnt. xpaintball pays for this site, so why would they let other sites use it for advertising? Then in paying for this forum, they would be paying for advertising for all of there competition...

**Party-Posse** · September 23rd, 01:05 AM

well... if you do get a cheap gun package etc. are you gonna be able to buy pbs if your that strapped for cash??

**p8ntballfan1** · September 23rd, 09:39 PM

Let that guy do what he wants, dont give him a sells pitch, just give your ideas of the markers he is talking about, lol, and im sure he can scrounge up money for the paint, ha but when paintballs get about 2 or 3 cents for ball, that is expensive haha , im sure things will work out, have fun gettin into the sport of paintball vip3r87.

**vip3r87** · September 24th, 05:43 PM

well thank you

**VL_Newbie** · September 24th, 06:12 PM

ill sell u a spyder shutter package 150 and ill pay for shipping.

Peter