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pimpin balla · September 13th, 11:45 PM

ok this is really gettin me mad. My gun is like a blender with paint. At first i thought it was my hopper, i had a ricochet apache, so i traded it in for a halo b but i still chop so many balls. Any suggestions on what to do.

ps its not tha paint i was using evil and it is every time i play

Spyder_Pimper#1 · September 14th, 01:29 AM

i would get an hpa a tank or at least anti siphoned co2 and the hopper might be to fast for yuor gun and might wanna check into getting a jaj ceramic barrel or smartparts teardrop

**empire 4 life** · September 14th, 01:33 AM

maybe a new gun with eyes if you got the money but the faster your balls feed the least chance of choping. oh they have new anti-chop bolts for like $50(i think) and the have then for sypders

**spyderpaintster** · September 14th, 08:24 AM

It very well may be the paint. The higher end paint or tourney paint is softer shelled than all the cheap stuff. This is so it will break easily on players. But if u have a spyder that runs over 500 psi (which u do) the pressure may be breaking the paint. This mean lower your pressure and less balls will break.

The hopper feeding too fast wont make u break balls unless ur ball detents stink. I am pretty sure it is the pressure ur gun is running at..which is probobly at 800 psi. Plus, a halo b will only feed as fasst as u can shoot.

pimpin balla · September 14th, 11:13 AM

i have a progressive barrel and they dont make those bolts for electras yet. so what kinda paint would u recommend spyder_pimper

**[^_^x]** · September 15th, 03:56 PM

get a tigershark bolt. and be sure the barrel to paint size is right.

**KingFikiElectra** · September 15th, 04:24 PM

Its prolly the bolt. Get a aftermarket bolt of polisht he internals. I gaurentee that will cut the chopping in half.

**JDMOTO** · September 15th, 05:57 PM

The BOLT

just pick one up. thats what i did when i use to have my Carmen..

paintballjunk12 · September 15th, 08:28 PM

And make sure your ball detent is still there,it may of gotten blown out

**bobjr247** · September 15th, 09:20 PM

You need to get a new bolt.I recomend the spyder superfly bolt. i bought one and i havnt chopped or broken a ball once and ive had it for like 10 months.

**spyderpaintster** · September 16th, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by paintballjunk12

And make sure your ball detent is still there,it may of gotten blown out

Yes, also make sure the detent isnt loose. This could be causing problems

Also, your pressure is probobly too high. Most spyders chop easy due to the extremely high pressure they run on. So if u pick up a regulator and turn ur psi down, that should help.

And about the paint...the cheaper stuff sadly and ironically will probobly do less chopping since they have thicker shells...But then they may not break on people. So its your call..chop paint or bounce off people.

**Zeruel** · September 16th, 09:52 PM

If you dont want to waste money on a new bolt, you could sand the front of your bolt. My friends Xtra was also a blender, but i suggest he sand down the front of the bolt, and wam, no chops. I think the electra needs a straight elbow like most spyders right? If so, find the little hole in the elbow. Put tape over this. Dont ask me what id does, but it helps with chops. It worked for both my friends.
Hope that helps

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · September 16th, 11:20 PM

The paint could be brittle, there could be something in your barrel. Your bolt could be chipping and have some metal sticking out. It could be a lot of things.

**spyderpaintster** · September 17th, 10:15 PM

i highly doubt it is a chipped bolt. Most spyders are blenders if u try and fire over 6 bps. Without a regulator the pressure of the bolt moving foreword is too much for any good quality paint to handle. That is why many times cheaper paint works better...because they have thcker shells

pimpin balla · September 17th, 10:48 PM

my detent is fine and i can only get like one kind of bolt cuz of the design.

paintballjunk12 · September 18th, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spyderpaintster

i highly doubt it is a chipped bolt. Most spyders are blenders if u try and fire over 6 bps. Without a regulator the pressure of the bolt moving foreword is too much for any good quality paint to handle. That is why many times cheaper paint works better...because they have thcker shells

Thats not true

**KingFikiElectra** · September 18th, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spyderpaintster

i highly doubt it is a chipped bolt. Most spyders are blenders if u try and fire over 6 bps. Without a regulator the pressure of the bolt moving foreword is too much for any good quality paint to handle. That is why many times cheaper paint works better...because they have thcker shells

Very not true lol. I used to have a spyder pilot (no reg). Most accurate gun ever. 13bps and not one chop. As soon as the bolt chipped the basterd went to hell. So a new bolt was installed.

**[^_^x]** · September 18th, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpin balla

my detent is fine and i can only get like one kind of bolt cuz of the design.

Thats not true either. There are tigershark bolts for electras and its only like $17

**Kilborne** · September 18th, 01:20 PM

Wow, I guess I have been lucky. I have several spyders, rarely chop paint on any of them (play woods ball though, rarely shoot above ~4 bps). Brass eagle and cheap arse paint being the exception though. I chop 1-2/400 if I use the cheap stuff. Ran around 4000 rounds of diablo midnight through my stock 2000 with only one ball break though. I understand the logic (cheap paint = thick shells = less ball breaks) but it hasn't worked that way for me.

**KingFikiElectra** · September 18th, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilborne

Wow, I guess I have been lucky. I have several spyders, rarely chop paint on any of them (play woods ball though, rarely shoot above ~4 bps). Brass eagle and cheap arse paint being the exception though. I chop 1-2/400 if I use the cheap stuff. Ran around 4000 rounds of diablo midnight through my stock 2000 with only one ball break though. I understand the logic (cheap paint = thick shells = less ball breaks) but it hasn't worked that way for me.

Thats really weird. I have had like 3 spyders that were that good. The rest arnt so lucky.