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**1nd1an** · October 5th, 06:48 PM

lol, from what angle i see this gun at is its 300 bucks non electric, and 500 bucks electro?

BKO- 200 used + 90 HPA >>> Raven

B2K4 wif pds- 400 Used + 90 HPA >>> Raven

B2K4 wif pds > Imagine (130) with T Board(50?), cp1(45), hpa(90), Halo b(85), Bob long reg (55), 445 bucks total, but is a great gun to start with

go with the imagine ALL the WAY bc a 430 dollar imagine has not placed being compared to a waste of money raven, that simple.

**Tex** · October 5th, 07:00 PM

Dragun the one, $200.

**Hellfire1190** · October 5th, 07:21 PM

OK THATS IT, i want a kingman. I dont know which one to get though. Im thinkin a spyder Rodeo, Shutter, Fenix, Pilot, Electra, E-99.

**Picasso21** · October 5th, 07:21 PM

spyder pilot acs

**Hellfire1190** · October 5th, 08:01 PM

the t.e.s is so cool should i get it guys?

Cali Guy 14 · October 5th, 08:03 PM

yeah Thank god you don't want a sypder. That gun rips for 200. I woudl get the one if you want to spend 250 plus you need anti syphonded or hpa but it works a lot better. But both draguns are good guns for the money, you see em in smaller tourneys, and in some bigger, alot.

**Hellfire1190** · October 5th, 08:04 PM

and can you mount asight on this gun?

**Tex** · October 6th, 04:50 PM

Don't get a tes. Get a t1. Its not much more and it is infinitely superior.

**spitfire7734** · October 6th, 10:05 PM

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why does a whole team use sypders? I can beat any of your sypders with my eyes closed

I bet u couldnt beat my spyder. Especially after i buy my t board. Spyders rock....but yea the t.e.s is good 2.....and sights r worthless

**Hellfire1190** · October 7th, 05:10 PM

spyders rock ok. wut about the spyder fenix cuz thats one of my choices of what gun i should get

**spitfire7734** · October 7th, 06:14 PM

the fenix is great. especially with the new acs bolt. my friend has 1 and its great. plus later on u can upgrade it to be really good

Cali Guy 14 · October 7th, 07:09 PM

um huh beat a impy with a was board. Anyway get a dragun t1 and wtf you want a sight? It isn't a sniper or anything close, the only gun that should ever have a sigth is a armotech, new name?, and milsims. I know you never played or shot a gun but just buy it, antisyphonded 20 oz and googles plus a empire reloader. your set for a lil over 300.

**Hellfire1190** · October 7th, 08:26 PM

ive shot a gun b4 just havent actualy "played" pb b4

**spitfire7734** · October 7th, 08:44 PM

well maybe u need to get some playing experiance. But newayz i am pro spyder but the one is a great gun and @ a great price.

Cali Guy 14 · October 7th, 09:11 PM

you don't play tourneys or anythign huh?

**Hellfire1190** · October 9th, 11:54 AM

ok there r three guns im looking at now. The Spyder Fenix, Dragun T.E.S., and the 04 BKO. can someone give me the spex of these guns side by side and tell me a lil about each one?

**4x4freak** · October 10th, 08:14 PM

G E T the bko

**Hellfire1190** · October 11th, 02:19 PM

Ok spitfire im going with what you said. Im gonna buy the Spyder fenix acs.

Cali Guy 14 · October 11th, 06:32 PM

GOD NO NO NO!!!!! Don't be a noob. If you want a sypder get a imagine, nothing else for a first gun, you need to learn, you can't on the fenix. But if you want a good gun go bko, if that is too much get a tes, no sypder, god damn.

**spitfire7734** · October 11th, 08:40 PM

ya'll can hate on spyders all ya'll want but i know that my spyder can hold its own against almost nething......but yea i would either go fenix or the bko...not the tes