4x4freak

im with both of them /\

Cali Guy 14

tes>sypder

KrAzAyInSaNe

Get a Bko
45/3000 Hpa
Egg
Used you could get it for under 300

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gil_ong81

$350 = 04 WGP Cocker??

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AGD AutoMag 68 Classic, Level-10 Bolt, Smart Parts Teardrop Barrel
Viewloader Revolution Hopper
PMI Pure Energy 68/4500 HPA Tank


Backyard Birding

Cali Guy 14

yeah a cocker would be nice, the vertical cocker is pretty good, never owned one, don't like em too much, but shot a few good ones and they rock on the field.

bobide

Used bko, ppl upgrade these things to the max, u can find a REALLY nice one for like $300.

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spitfire7734

get a bko..... not a tes .....some people really do deck them out to be tizight
and xtreme paintball sells em cheap new

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my setup
spyder amg classic
freak jr. barrel
shocktech supafly bolt
slasher trigger
fatty striker
macro line
FBM Thorn Drop with On/Off
cp reg
one lpr
halo reloader b
PE 68ci/4500psi tank
t board w/ eyes/upgrade chip
25 g switch

Hellfire1190

maybe i should get a 98 custome since they are so cheap but later you can upgrade then to kick ass

p8NtB/-\113r

Learn to speak english... You guys are pretty much all wrong he needs to play before he buys a marker, he should go rent a gun first, find out what place he plays the field and then we can tell him a right gun for him

Example: Tippmann/Spyder/Dragun.

Hellfire1190

So i should either get a tippmann,spyder or a dragun?

Hellfire1190

im most likely gonna buy the spyder or a dragun. But i have no idea which gun is better then the other and details on this guns and crap like that

4x4freak

hell fire i own a e-99 get a DRAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they have eyes!!!

Hellfire1190

4x4 so that means i should get a t.e.s. or the one? which one though. and fill me in about these eyes iv heard of them alot never really knew what they were

mr-happy

ICD BKO'04 ($300)- 18 ball per second, electropneumatic (faster/smoother firing), requires HALO B ($110), and Nitrogen ($100-200) High Maintenance/complicated design
http://www.paintballgateway.com/20bubkose.html

Dragun TES ($160)- 20 bps capable (more like 15), blowback (slower firing/more kick) has eye (no chopping balls in gun) needs evolution 2 ($65) or HALO B ($110), needs nitrogen ($100-200)
http://www.paintballgateway.com/dremttaelsn1.html

Icon-E ($120)- 13 bps capable, blowback (slower firing/more kick), dip switch controls (full auto,burst, semi) requires slower motorized hopper like revolution with X-board ($45) or richochet AK ($56), co2 or nitrogen. ($20 or $100-200)
http://www.paintballgateway.com/32deeicelmab.html

These are all good beginner guns. I'm sure you'll be happy with any of those three. Don't go to ************.com. They're more expensive. Paintballgateway.com or Paintballoutlet.com are much cheaper.

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Dragun T.E.S.
Halo B
OGI Clamping Feed
Magnetic trigger
25 gram switch
JAM Bolt
68/3000 PMI

4x4freak

what mr. happy said but both the tes and bko can run off of co2 as long as it is anti syphin (SP)

Cali Guy 14

both are worng. A tes can run off co2. It isn't electropnuetmatic so you can have liquid co2 in the gun. If you get the one you will need AS or hpa but thats differnet. Ok heres the final vertict. Go play at a field, rent or use a friends gun. Ask around. Play some. Then go to a shop and talk to the guys there but don't say you will buy from them, they will bs you till you buy a 700 sypder. I will tell you my shop is cheaper than the internet, on everyhting but guns. I got dye stickies cheaper than anywhere i could find them? There c4 is 2 bucks more than internet, but you have to figure shipping and wait so yeah. Just had them get me a drop, really good deal.

So basicly go to local field, ask to shot some of the guns, high and low end. I wil tell you if someone asks to just dryfire mine i will let em and maybe let em play with it if i am on their team. Ask around, i bet you will learn whats good. Worst thing is when you buy someoen you don't like! Have fun with it man!