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**[^_^x]** · November 16th, 03:47 PM

Cant someone just make one of these? all u need is a second microswitch and then a bit of cutsom milling. I also doubt it will go 30 bps. But we'll see. If its good Ill get one for my Rebel and sell off my stock electronic trigger to my friend for $20.

**i bunkered u** · November 16th, 04:04 PM

**Dudeus** · November 16th, 04:10 PM

price maybe? and a link to buy it? pm me if u have it

**DrinkPaintDie** · November 16th, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by [^_^x]

Cant someone just make one of these? all u need is a second microswitch and then a bit of cutsom milling. I also doubt it will go 30 bps. But we'll see. If its good Ill get one for my Rebel and sell off my stock electronic trigger to my friend for $20.

You guys are going to think I am totally lying but, I went into the spyder forum to post a thread on how i was going to take the ESP and drill out a second hole for another microswitch and then jump the wires from the first micro swith over to the second one and then make a pivoting trigger. Of course when i get my idea the first thing i see is this thread.

**tmaxx_2.5** · November 16th, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkPaintDie

You guys are going to think I am totally lying but, I went into the spyder forum to post a thread on how i was going to take the ESP and drill out a second hole for another microswitch and then jump the wires from the first micro swith over to the second one and then make a pivoting trigger. Of course when i get my idea the first thing i see is this thread.

ha, srry for bursting ur bubble

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 16th, 06:45 PM

30 bps with a blowback, you wish. Its not gonna make you shoot any faster, and with all the kick it just wont perform. This is a good idea though, they should put it on other guns.

**tmaxx_2.5** · November 16th, 07:08 PM

dave, that is possible w/ a blowback, i've seen you 3-4 times already say its not possible, maybe not 30, but it can get pretty high.

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 16th, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tmaxx_2.5

dave, that is possible w/ a blowback, i've seen you 3-4 times already say its not possible, maybe not 30, but it can get pretty high.

The internals can move that fast but fingers can't. With electros they cap. With Co2 it will freeze over because of the rapid expansion of Co2, you'll get shootdown. The solenoid will not move that fast. I'm not saying spyders suck, I'm just saying they dont shoot fast.

**KingFikiElectra** · November 16th, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

30 bps with a blowback, you wish. Its not gonna make you shoot any faster, and with all the kick it just wont perform. This is a good idea though, they should put it on other guns.

Pshh show how much u know with ur noob cannon defiant. LOL!

jk

**[^_^x]** · November 16th, 09:10 PM

u dont have to run it on c02.... Might work with a lighter bolt and lighter spring. maybe not 30 but it might keep up or overtake a tes. Shouldnt cost more that the ESP frame tho.

I was also thinging of making a full ring trigger. One where u got switchecs going all around. . You would have more options than just walking. Raking would be alot more functional and u could do circles and it would kinda work like that crank thing.

**tmaxx_2.5** · November 16th, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

The internals can move that fast but fingers can't. With electros they cap. With Co2 it will freeze over because of the rapid expansion of Co2, you'll get shootdown. The solenoid will not move that fast. I'm not saying spyders suck, I'm just saying they dont shoot fast.

electro cap = new board allows higher rof.
co2 freeze = hpa solves that
solenoid = sear can prolly go that fast

not bein mean,

but a spyder can be made into a machine, just will take some time and $$, or a spyder-timmy conversion

**i bunkered u** · November 16th, 09:54 PM

this type of trigger frame is available for cockers. blow backs can cycle way over 30.

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 17th, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tmaxx_2.5

electro cap = new board allows higher rof.
co2 freeze = hpa solves that
solenoid = sear can prolly go that fast

not bein mean,

but a spyder can be made into a machine, just will take some time and $$, or a spyder-timmy conversion

Then you just drop 500 for an ugly timmy. Tripping the sear with the spyder solenoid takes a lot more movement than using a 4 way solenoid to switch valves and move a ram.

The thing is noobs think they can just put this on their xtra or TLx and be able to shoot an accurate consistant stream of 20bps. The upgrades it would take to accomplish what you are saying is very expensive. You need HPA, a full low pressure set up with reg, bolt, valve, springs, and all. And even then all you get is an medium speed gun with a lot of kick that costed 700 bucks.

**tmaxx_2.5** · November 17th, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

The thing is noobs think they can just put this on their xtra or TLx and be able to shoot an accurate consistant stream of 20bps. The upgrades it would take to accomplish what you are saying is very expensive. You need HPA, a full low pressure set up with reg, bolt, valve, springs, and all. And even then all you get is an medium speed gun with a lot of kick that costed 700 bucks.

exactly. I was just saying it IS possible, but not practical.

**Angered Fists** · November 17th, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

Then you just drop 500 for an ugly timmy. Tripping the sear with the spyder solenoid takes a lot more movement than using a 4 way solenoid to switch valves and move a ram.

The thing is noobs think they can just put this on their xtra or TLx and be able to shoot an accurate consistant stream of 20bps. The upgrades it would take to accomplish what you are saying is very expensive. You need HPA, a full low pressure set up with reg, bolt, valve, springs, and all. And even then all you get is an medium speed gun with a lot of kick that costed 700 bucks.

Dear Dave,

Please stop hating Spyders in the Spyder forum.

Sincerely
The Spyder forum

PBCoville9 · November 17th, 04:38 PM

i shot it last weekend at commanders cup it is nice really light. they told us they have decided on the price yet but it is nice...

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · November 17th, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Angered Fists

Dear Dave,

Please stop hating Spyders in the Spyder forum.

Sincerely
The Spyder forum

I'm not hating spyders, just the people that think they're the "shiznat!!112!1!!1!¡¡¡¡". A trigger frame will not make you shoot fast, practicing walking will.

**128shot** · November 17th, 06:17 PM

course not, but you think kingman cares? I really like the idea though. Instead of just shooting on one trigger, you're basically shooting 2 mini triggers. I don't know the specifics or anything, but that would seem logical.

**staraero** · December 4th, 07:02 PM

it's been a while how good do they work also were can i order one at i have looked ever were no local stores either