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December 6th, 05:33 PM
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Bad Spyder Bad
I've been seeing good performance from my Spyder Imagine when I was useing it around September and October. I stopped paintballing because it's gotten a little cold outside but yesterday when I went to play again my gun was shooting so bad. On some shots it would curve left all the way at around 25-35 ft. Some it would be curve up or down around 50-70 ft. Sometimes at 50 it would just curve in any direction and not even aim at the target. I haven't messed with the velocity or anythin at all so I have no idea what this is. There was no wind at the time, just clear weather.
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December 6th, 05:39 PM
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bad/old paint at the field?
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December 6th, 06:33 PM
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its F-ing cold moron. Ur co2 tank isn't putting out a good old 850psi anymore. Its more like 600psi (guess) therefore the gun is starving and giving u ****ty results.
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December 6th, 06:38 PM
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I was playing with a friend and his Tippmann was shooting about fine, just a couple were off. I've played before in the cold and it hasen't done that, also watch that flamming there bob. It did that with every shot of mine, my gun wouldn't shoot farther than about 75 ft. The paint was about 1 month old, a little less.
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December 7th, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bobide
its F-ing cold moron. Ur co2 tank isn't putting out a good old 850psi anymore. Its more like 600psi (guess) therefore the gun is starving and giving u ****ty results.
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Dont talk like that.....Or else the ground + your Eface = results
And it maybe the cold. So adjust the reg. And re polish the internals.
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December 7th, 04:42 AM
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I am thinking that you do not have a reg or a gauge on your spyder.Unless it is heavyly modded you should have it arounfd 800psi.Sometimes in the cold you may not be able to get it up that high.Then you will have to shim the spring or get a heavier spring.Crono the gun first and if you are shooting slow you will need to shim it.If it is shooting over 330 fps you will need to get a lighter spring or cut one loop at a time until you get it at about 280 fps.Remember if you cut then when it warms up you will need to shim major or get a new spring.You can make some shims out of alum or nylon in 3/8 dia.If you know someone with some alum arrows in that size it would work.You could go high tech and use carbon fiber.You can also just buy a shim set from shock tech or a spring set.I know that the last time I shot ,it was cold and I could not get over about 550psi out of the gun so I shimmed the spring because on the crono it was doing about 230(not good).At both the places I play we shoot in the low 290's.Just get a hacksaw and some 3/8 round stock or tubing and make differnt sizes 1/8,1/4,1/2,3/4 and you will be set.Goodluck with it.
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December 7th, 10:33 AM
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Thanks guys, would a really thick tank cover help a little bit? Other than that I need Compressed Air.
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December 7th, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bobide
its F-ing cold moron. Ur co2 tank isn't putting out a good old 850psi anymore. Its more like 600psi (guess) therefore the gun is starving and giving u ****ty results.
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stfu and get your **** right nub
you are using to big a paint. when it is to big it will rub on the barrel creating a spin, this is why it spins off left, rich, up, or down. try using a smaller paint.
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December 7th, 12:07 PM
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Thanks for setting Bob right. I've been useing the same black paint always, maybe they changed it? Well i'ma go and buy some more paint.
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December 7th, 12:30 PM
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Did you rotate the paint every so often? if you didn't do that, that could be the main reason for the curving effect and with the balls not going for far... cause it's too cold for the CO2's to work effectively. Tank cover should do something but not sure.
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December 7th, 02:20 PM
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I rotated them like 4 times in the month. Anyways i'll go experiment with different kinds of paint.
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December 7th, 04:58 PM
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sry for the flame. 1st one for me. Shouldn't of done that. Uncalled for.
I still think its a velocity prob b/c of co2 pressure...
Maybe u put the shim in front of the striker? That might do it.
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December 7th, 05:20 PM
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no its not his velocity. its that the paint is to big and rubing against the barrel making it spin
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December 7th, 05:28 PM
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Thanks guys, would a really thick tank cover help a little bit? Other than that I need Compressed Air.
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no, a tank cover on co2 makes it even worse.
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December 13th, 02:05 AM
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sigh, I guess moste of you ppl havent played paintball in cold weather with co2. The pressure should not affect how you'r paintball moves in the air giveing bad groupings. It's wind, velocity and whatever is on the paintball or in the barrel/chamber. I have used (not in a game, just shooting stuff)horrabel paint before; rubbery, enlarged and all kinds of flats on them and got suppriseingly good resultes compared to the condition they were in, the accuracy was nothing good but not horrabel. I have not had a problem yet with accuracy in cold weather(between 35* and 40*) even thow you are shooting foot long frost in the wake of the paintball. Accuracy in my experance comes down to the qualty of the barrel, wind and how clean everthing is.
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