g35thanh

First paintball gun. they are both about the same in price, so thats not a factor. what are the differences?which would be better for a beginner?

thanks a lot

Snowsk5054

Um...almost different in price...
The rodeo is like $110 at xpaintball and the imagine is something like $140, right?
I would suggest the Rodeo, cuz its cheaper and a little better than the imagine, imo, that and all you hafta do to get a rodeo to have full auto is get an e-frame, and bam, you got a gun that could kep up with a imagine....the rodeo also has a reg, right? I am not sure, but thats right, right? The imagine has nothing but a e-grip, and thats it....but get what you would feel more comfortable with, but I suggest the rodeo.....IMO

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stupidlikeaf0x

The Imagine by far. It has an e-frame and if you get a Rodeo you'll probably end up getting one anyway. Why not just start with one? Yes, I think the Rodeo has a regulator but it's a crappy Kingman one. It's not very consistant. And if you ever wanted to get an aftermarket regulator, you have to get a whole new VA to put it on because the Rodeo VA is different. The Imagine gives you a head start on upgrades.

wackwar

please dont make posts if u dont no what ur talking about, the imagine is $120 and the rodeo is $110. you are basically telling him to buy a rodeo and put an eframe on it. eframes cost $90, why not pay $10 more for the imagine. they are both the same gun on the inside.

I hate when people make posts with bad info, grrr, get the imagine

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Since when do Eframes cost 90$?

Anyway, I wold go with the rodeo. Why? Because its simple. You dont need a electronic hopper and you will chop alot less. The regulator on the gun isnt crappy. Its not bad acctually. All you need when you get the gun stock is a new barell and you can rock and roll.

The imagine... You would NEED to get a Ehopper. Then a new barell. You will chop alot. And if you couple the chopping with a bad barell and no reg. Your screwed.

My advice: If you are going to get hard core into paintball get the rodeo then get a used eframe once you allready upgrade the rodeo. Or get the imagine and upgrade it to begin with. You would need a new bolt, hopper, and reg.

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g35thanh

hey, thanks for the replies guys. I don't really understand some of the terms you guys are saying, but this is gonna be my first paint ball marker. I'm not planning to do any competitions, I just want a nice looking marker that will perform well on an amateur level. Its just gonna be me and my friends playing against each other.

They all went with the spyder victor, which I heard was a good beginners gun, but its a little ugly imo.

I'm leaning towards an electronic marker, because it has the fully auto, semi auto, and 3 shot burst option.


Any reason why an electronic would be bad for me?I'm not planning to do any upgrades to my marker.


Also how is the icon e compared to the imagine?

Snowsk5054

Thank you Fiki!! I owe you one...thanks for that save...
The rodeo has more capabilities stock than the Imagine, and I have an imagine, and personally, not a real big fan of it. The Rodeo has a 12 inch barrel, stock. The Imagine barrel stock is like 9 inchs, and you cant shoot a good distance at all, and the balls curve, depending on the ball size. The electronic frame is very sensitive, and you shoot faster than that gravity hopper loads, which makes this result in chops. I was suggesting he can get an e-frame for his rodeo, but he dosent hafta if he dosent want to. Cuz with the e-frame, and if your running c02, the gun will freeze quite a bit....and that will happen on anything e-framed with c02....so imo I think that the rodeo would just be a better purchase in the long run, cuz I havent had really good luck with my imagine.....and the rodeo seems better built than the Imagine....all IMO

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My friend has an Imagine and a gravity fed hopper. He has gone auto multiple times and has yet to chop. I like the Imagine and personally reccommend it.

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Mangudai

If he doesnt go fully auto or even 3 burst I dont see why he would chop all the time. The eframe also blesses you with a shorter trigger pull.

wackwar

Fiki, not trying to rip on your post or anything as you are a expert with spyders, but i can point out a few problems with your post.

eframes do generally cost $90 so thats one problem. you said you needed an electric hopper for the imagine, which isnt true, just pull the trigger slower. you suggested a new barrel for both, but u included a bad barrel as a con of the imagine, not the rodeo. a rodoe uses the same bolt as the imagine so u wouldnt have to upgrade one as opposed to the other. You dont need a reg on a spyder, i went with out for 2 years.

And the last part wrong with your post was your suggestion of getting the rodeo if you are getting into paintball hardcore; first of all who gets into paintball hardcore with a spyder and second of all you are telling him to get a eframe for the rodeo, which comes stock on the imagine for $10 more.

one question to you: were you high?

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g35thanh

ok. so now my friends are telling me an electronic marker is bad for noobs. is this true?

SupahFly21

lol, getting a gun that isnt electric is crap, cause they shoots REALLY slow, they dont know what theyre talking about. i guaruntee you that 19/20 guys on this forum will say electric is better than mech for spyders. youre friends dont really know what theyre talking about

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just get an Imagine(buy mine)

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Hmm I personally bought a used little rodeo, and then slapped an e frame on it for only 90 dollars total INCLUDING GUN.
The esp frames run from 40-70 used, the forums of kingman actually are a good place to read about the guns and get an idea.

Ok electric is not bad neccesarily for a noob. Like fiki said you will have to buy an electronic hopper a good one will run at least 39 and up.... Starting on a mech is a good ida to me because you learn more. But electonic isn't gonna hurt anything. I am almost sure you will upgrade the gun anyway and end up with a electronic grip but thats up to you. Now days its about speed when firing to most people. Don't let this bother you. The Electric grips are capped at 13 bps so you won't be going super fast. And for now you don't need to worry about going super fast.
To me the rodeo is better I agree with fiki. The reg is nice and if you use that gun and go to an electric grip when you are ready it might just work better.

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g35thanh

are the old black imagines just as good as the new 04 imagines?

ElementPB126

This is exactly what I did. I can't say I regreat doing it either because the gun is great for what I use it for. Listen to Fiki, get the rodeo.

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tyson171

Hey welcome to paintball m8 , i might be able to help you out somewhat, when i first started playing paintball, i bought a rodeo, and it was a great first gun. Doesn't break very often, low maintence(although i clean after every game and do a full cleaning after every 3.) You will start to want more and more out of your gun though, as i did, i bought a new barrel, new bolt, and a 12v revvy, and now my gun is shooting how i like it, but i wish i would have bought a spyder imagine instead, because it already has an e-grip on it, and is easier to upgrade as others have stated, and no matter what you think now, you will want to upgrade after a month or so (heh i just happens). A spyder victor isn't a bad gun either, basically it is the same gun as the rodeo, except the stock barrel is horrible and there isn't any regulator on the gun(a reg helps keep the psi of each shot consistant). But since you will want a new barrel anyways, that doesn't matter. So in the end i say go with the imagine, more possibilities for upgrades (cheaper, although you will need an electric hopper and barrel), but i needed a new hopper for my rodeo, because i was chopping because i was outshooting a gravity hopper.) Hope my post wasn't to confusing, and just pick the right gun for you, but don't think you'll be able to just use full auto on the imagine right out of the box, it is best to just use semi auto all around, that will help you be more accurate and you won't be spraying and praying like some people do. (btw i've only played paintball for 4 months, and i already want a new gun, which is going to be a bko in a week ...hurry up christmas . Anyways i hope all goes well, and have fun !

spyshark

I started out with a rodeo and then upgraded it to a eframe.The gun is rock solid the reg does not suck and works well.The gauge is also nice,so later when you have done a high flow valve and bolt ect.The gauge will help with fine tunning.A rodoe with a eframe is better than any imagine and equal to a pilot.You can't go wrong with either.

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