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**Lil_Gti_Boy** · January 13th, 06:12 PM

Cheack that out tourny legal or no?
..Check out the full auto vid

http://xsfadvantage.com:/product_info_spyderkit.html

***martix_agent*** · January 13th, 06:22 PM

the full auto is not tourney legal, no full auto is tourney legal. but the semi auto is legal I'll admitt they sure can rip it pretty fast, but that doesn't mean that getting this will automatically make you rip that fast either. you gotta pratice and pratice..I'm still not very good at it, but I'm getting better.

**stupidlikeaf0x** · January 13th, 10:00 PM

Actually, full auto is legal in some leagues, but it has to be capped at 15 bps. The XSF board is good I guess, but the T-board has more adjustability and is cheaper. http://www.scenariodreams.com/t-board.htm

**paintballer1134** · January 13th, 10:10 PM

GTI dont you have the Piranha GTI if so those boards wont hit in are Piranha frames are boards are to small.

**Ahmadi6490** · January 13th, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stupidlikeaf0x

Actually, full auto is legal in some leagues, but it has to be capped at 15 bps. The XSF board is good I guess, but the T-board has more adjustability and is cheaper. http://www.scenariodreams.com/t-board.htm

Read the rules.

**Lil_Gti_Boy** · January 14th, 05:03 PM

i know i have a GTI buh im thinkiking of getting a SPYDER

**Snowsk5054** · January 14th, 05:34 PM

Its tourney legal...all aftermarket boards are tourney legal, you just cant run it at full auto.

**SupahFly21** · January 14th, 06:13 PM

if it has a tourny lock on it then its tourny legal in semi.

**paintballer1134** · January 14th, 11:06 PM

GTI dont get a spyder its really pointless because you are paying for what you pretty much already have. Save up the extra money and Impy or a B2K5 when they come out.

**fenix_freak** · January 14th, 11:17 PM

the XSF board is better than the t-board..snap switches are awesome in my opinion and are better than normal switches...the xsf is more expensive but it is comes with a 50g switch, vision eyes, and eye covers...with the t-board all you get is the board and then if you want you can get it with eyes...it doesnt come with eye covers wich is needed and you have to buy the switch separate...all in all the xsf is much better in my opinion...before i new about the xsf board i was going to get the t-board for my fenix...now i am saving a little more to get the xsf board which is much better in my opinion

**SupahFly21** · January 14th, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fenix_freak

the XSF board is better than the t-board..snap switches are awesome in my opinion and are better than normal switches...the xsf is more expensive but it is comes with a 50g switch, vision eyes, and eye covers...with the t-board all you get is the board and then if you want you can get it with eyes...it doesnt come with eye covers wich is needed and you have to buy the switch separate...all in all the xsf is much better in my opinion...before i new about the xsf board i was going to get the t-board for my fenix...now i am saving a little more to get the xsf board which is much better in my opinion

i agree the xsf board is better but i think i should correct you on a few things.
the tboard comes with eyes too, and it doesnt add to the cost of it. to get a switch you could just go to radioshack to get it for $2.69.
the good point is the xsf board "doesnt have a limit on the rate of fire". it does but probably much higher than the Tboard.

**fenix_freak** · January 15th, 12:21 AM

what i mean is that you can get the t-board without the break beam eyes for less than the t-board with...go to their site and look...and yea i know about the switches at radio shack...but 5grams is way too little...you would have to have a couple barrel condoms on there or something because if a fly lands on a 5g switch...its gonna shoot...you could sneeze during a game and make it go off prolly...lol...just picture that...someone sneezing to shoot their gun

steveomonster · January 15th, 12:52 AM

I am thinking about getting the xsf board also by saving.
now your sayign the xsf board is "unlimited' or whatever but, what does it shoot in full auto? as fast as your hopper feeds?

it doesn't look that fast, but the sound seems faster it seems like it clicks 2 times for each bullet.

**fenix_freak** · January 15th, 12:56 AM

yea...the xsf board shoots as fast as your hopper feeds and not 1bps more...gotta love break beam eyes

steveomonster · January 15th, 12:59 AM

well thats not that good then, because I only have an empire reloader which is, what? only like 12 bps? but, hey thats alot better than the stock spyder right?

**fenix_freak** · January 15th, 01:04 AM

stock spyder boards are capped at 14bps...if you got the xsf or the t-board you would want a faster hopper...im good with my eVLution 2...the t-board and the xsf are both capable of 30+bps supposedly...and with the break beam eyes you wont chop because if there isnt a ball 100% in the chamber the gun wont fire...as soon as the beam is broken (hence the break beam) then the gun can fire...so if your loader only feeds 12bps then thats the fastest you can shoot with eyes...and then if your loader can feed 25bps thats the fastest you can shoot with eyes....you can also turn the vision eyes off but you wouldnt really want to because you would chop like crazy

**lovetocheat69** · January 15th, 01:16 AM

steveomonster · January 15th, 01:23 AM

No. what? nice spam wh0re

so your saying I could turn off the eyes and then the xsf board will just shoot as fast as I shooting but wont see the ball so it will chop it?

and the t-board is the same thing with the eyes except it stops at 36...hmmmmmmmmm you know what im saving up til I get 300 dollars then im upgrading.

**stupidlikeaf0x** · January 15th, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmadi6490

Read the rules.

I do believe that I have before, and I don't see where I broke one. Please enlighten me, I may have missed something.

Anyway, I think I have to clear up some misconceptions, mainly those stated by fenix_freak. I know it's his opinion that it's better, but it's actually not, unless they've changed it since I last looked it over. The XSF "snap" switch is just a plain omron switch with a lever on it. Mechanical advantage. Your pull is lighter, but it's also longer. If I'm not mistaken, once the lever is taken off of the XSF switch, it's the exact same thing as the stock one. While we're on the subject of switches, not the Radio Shack switch isn't really 5g and no, it's not too light. It's the same EXACT thing as the stock switch once you remove the lever. Even putting everything together, the T-board is still cheaper.
T-board - $55
Eyes - $10
T-switch - $11
Intimidator eye covers - $15
If I'm not mistaken, it's a lot cheaper. As far as eye covers go, they're not absolutely necessary like fenix said. I don't have covers on one of my aced spyders and it works perfectly fine. It doesn't look half bad either. IMO, timmy eye covers are a LOT better looking than the XSF covers, but to each his own. I think timmy covers look sexy, which is why I have them on my other aced spyder. As far as the XSF just plain being better, it's actually not. It has less features and less adjustability than the T-board.
Anyway, the last determining factor as to why I went with the T-board is customer service. Damon is always on the boards to answer questions and always responds to e-mails promptly. He backs his product 100%. That's less than I can say for Ken (XSF).

It's late, so I hope I explained myself correctly.

**ImpulseDragon** · January 15th, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stupidlikeaf0x

I do believe that I have before, and I don't see where I broke one. Please enlighten me, I may have missed something.

I think he means because you posted a link other than xpaintball.com