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Old August 19th, 09:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BEFORE YOU READ: this thread has a LOT of words in it. if you're afraid of words, click the back button, hurry! if you have half a brain...no, this thread requires at least 5/8s of a brain...then read on

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/576.asp


(this is a different article from ^^)

Here's the prelims for what's in store. For us guys in Sacramento who don’t have a clue, the cops are coming down on modified imports like a ton of bricks, its going to be unlike anything you have ever experienced when the cop has pulled you over. Allot of what is in store for Sactown is based off the SDPD Drag-Net program, with new tactics and revisions skirting civil rights, I mean on the very fringe of your rights

The local cops are going to get a course on a few textbook things:

*Identifying Illegal Engine & Vehicle Modifications
*Engine & Transmission Number Tampering and Detection
*Enforcement Tactics for Engine Modifications
*"Hands-On" Practical Experience Inspecting Modified Vehicles
*Racer Related Insurance Fraud and Auto Theft
*Using Local and State Legislation to Solve the Problem
*Modifying Streets to Deter Racing
*Preparing for Mass Arrests
*Investigating Street Races and Seizures of Racer Vehicles

Now, with anything in the local government sector, it takes some time to phase it in. There is going to be several phases of the crackdown starting with the most obvious and narrowing down to the organized street race scene. When the full blunt force of the team kicks in, they are going to hit hard and heavy, it’s going to be the talk of the town. They plan on sending their message right away. The cops are going to do their homework in rounding up information. What you can expect is the following:

* - Trolling local car websites to target meet spots and drives.

You want to talk about low blow? Websites will be monitored for what is blatantly obvious, to go to the area of meet, trap the cars, inspect, ticket or impound modified cars.
* - Video taping of modified vehicles and license plates at Sacramento Raceway and import car show venues within the county.

Undercover cops will be there video taping modified cars running on the track as well as parked cars. With video evidence in hand, the plates are run through the system where the cops may send out a letter warning you of the mods on the car and/or schedule an unexpected DOT inspection of your car at home.

* - Street crackdown

With their newly found mad profiling skilz, they will pull you over. Nab you on front license plate BS if its not installed, stickers placed on the windshield and rear glass, LED glow kits, ride height being at least 22.5 inches from ground to bottom of headlight and more. Next comes the fine tooth comb, plan on being stopped for a while because they are going through everything now. Non approved intake, headers, exhaust, Naaawwwsss, etc.
Depending on how many violations they stick you for, will lead to fines and fees up the butt till that car is stock again when you go see the mandatory Referee for inspection and testing. Worse cases an automatic impound plus the Referee.

Get ready for unscheduled road blocks, IE, cop cars blocking the way with their lights on. The purpose of this is to trap cars into an area where each and every car will be fine tooth combed, ticketed and impounded. Currently, the DUI checkpoints already do this, but now there’s going to be more of them with the purpose of trapping cars.

* - Hangout crackdown

You can't just sit and chill with the guys talking cars without being DOT inspected now. Going on a tipoff from an undercover who mingled in the crowd or spotted you, cops will block in all parked cars and every car will be fine tooth combed. Violators might get lucky with a ticket, but what they are really after is the revenue generated by the impounds and I mean lots of impounds. The will have the tow trucks lined up ready to take cars.

If you are hooked on the underground racing scene in Sacramento, your days are numbered. Everyone knows that if you are caught racing you automatically loose your car, well now you are looking at jail time. Get ready for bait cars to lure you into a trap. Undercovers will now be mingled in with the crowd to listen in for the race spot, video tape your face if possible, your car and license plates. If, for some reason, they weren’t able to make the bust at the race site, the cops will compile the video info of plates captured, get an arrest warrant for you at your home and impound your car. Yes, this is now coming to Sacramento mostly targeting Friday and Saturday nights well into the early hours of the morning.


this ****ty state is spending 5 million bucks to train officers how to profile asians in their ricers...oops i mean stop street racing.

its all about the money....

this is from another board, a guy with an S10 pickup with a turboed LS-1 in it got pulled over
"got pulled over cuse i was too low, and the lady cop was signing the ticket and the guy got out and said, "rip that up this trucks a race car." so she ripped the ticket up and he asked me if i would pop my hood. i said no cuse he has no reason to do so. and he got pissed pulled me out of the car and sat my ass on the curb. then he asked for my keys and said im poping your hood, and i said no your not. i want your superrior here now. so he poped it anyways. the superrior finally got there and asked me what the problome was. cop said, "well i was looking at his truck and it looked like a race truck to me so i am checking it out." and i said, "well since you pulled me over for being lowered, i dont belieave you are justified to determine my truck is a race truck, i wasnt speeding, racing, burning out or getting sideways." "so tell me where he had the right to search my car?" and the superrior said well the exhaust is a little loud. so i said, "yeh i belieave that is justification to cite me for a noise violation, not a warrant to search my truck. and the superrior said, and i quote, "I AGREE WITH YOU." he said if it was in his hands he wouldve dropped it but since it was in the other cops hands it was his choice to do as he pleased.

i then brought up the point that, "if you drive by a house and think it has drugs, can you search it?" he said no. then i shut him up by asking, "then why is it that you can "think" my truck is modified and be allowed to search it without a warrant?"

then he jsut walked away and gave me the ticket."

i swear, if I get pulled over and the cops illegally search my car, I'm going to sue the **** out of them. this is a clear breach of our 4th amendment rights. an officer cannot, without a warrant and PROBABLE CAUSE, search your house without your permission, so what makes them think they can pop your hood without PROBABLE CAUSE and a warrant? now, they may be able to frisk you without a warrant, but again, they need PROBABLE CAUSE. probable cause is higher than REASONABLE SUSPICION, which is what these officers are going on. you cannot, by simply seeing large wings and an aftermarket muffler on a car (reasonable suspicion), determine that the car has illegal (not smog-legal) parts on it and justify an unauthorized search. that guy's truck pretty much looks stock, i.e. no blower sticking out of the hood, below the 95db sound rating for the exhaust, etc. also, as he said, he was not doing anything to show that his car was a "race car," i.e. burning out, speeding, driving recklessly, etc. so, again, the officer had absolutely NO justified reason to pop the hood.

I'm thinking of disconnecting my hood release (or hiding it somewhere else) in the off-chance I get pulled over for having a "race car". so when I refuse to let them pop the hood (on my smog-legal engine), they can try to force it open and break something/scratch up the paint so I can sue them for a new paint job (and then some).

the only way this is going to stop is somebody taking this all the way to the supreme court and making it known to the officers and everyone else that this is a clear violation of our civil rights, and that the auto enthusiasts of California (and other states) will not have it.

now I know there are plenty of ricers who have non-smog legal parts. but what the hell difference does it make? those damn things with 200k miles run cleaner than my brand new engine does.

also, this is supposed to "crack down on street racing." apparently, street racing is the biggest/only cause of death on the road these days. i'd like to see how drunk driving compares to street racing in deaths/injuries caused, and money/effort spent on both. I believe the only reason they're cracking down on modified cars is not to reduce deaths, but to bring in even more money with tickets and impounds.

what REALLY pisses me off is the talk about them going to legal drag races and scoping out the cars there. even the CHP website says to go to a legal drag strip to race, but if you go there they'll check out your car, find out where you live and try to bust you for "illegal" parts

its about time for me to move....

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and if it's too long and you didnt read it, go back to learning your ABC's and/or go play on the freeway
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Old August 19th, 09:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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pimp my ride cars wouldnt count right?

and screw you i wanna get outa this hellhole and move to california
especially cupertino...near san diego (i think)

EDIT: nvm pimp my ride cars wouldnt count...im retarded...
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Old August 19th, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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tl;dr version plz?

whats in coopertino taht u want so much?

and its closer to san fransisco tahn san diego, i belive.... closer to all the gays. hey u would fit in.... no?
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Old August 19th, 09:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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may not be gay but ill respect them...

nah i just found cupertino... or coopertino however u spell it... to be a nice place
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Old August 19th, 10:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the tl;dr is at the end

i should edit the post to let everyone know this is for intelligent discussion only...
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this is pbf...u cant always get an intelligent conversation when you want to
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sucky, they definately should be allowed to pull you over and pop your hood because your car looks fast. i think you should be caught actually racing before they have a right to do soemthing like that. silly cops...
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Old August 19th, 10:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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this is pbf...u cant always get an intelligent conversation when you want to
i'm zpyro...i pwn the calendar...if u want to have a bday you will not spam my thread

seriously tho, i know mods will have my back on this, they hate retards on here as much as i do
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Old August 19th, 10:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I didn't read all of it, but I read bits and pieces.

So basically you can get in trouble for souping your car up? How ****ing gay.

That whole deal with the truck is bull**** too.
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i read it all, and the cops had no reason to search the guys truck..
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the tl;dr is at the end

i should edit the post to let everyone know this is for intelligent discussion only...
my bad, i usually look for the 'tl;dr' symbol...

ill just made an edjucated guess to waht the thread is about... here is my post:

wow man, that sucks.... make sure u dont get caught, tickets suck.
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I didn't read all of it, but I read bits and pieces.

So basically you can get in trouble for souping your car up? How ****ing gay.

That whole deal with the truck is bull**** too.
the cops are spending 5 million dollars to be trained how to profile "Race cars" with non-smog legal parts, and they are illegally and unconstitutionally popping hoods to check
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Old August 19th, 10:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I see.

So basically all the knock off parts that aren't DOT approved that you get off ebay, you can get ticketed for?

They can't pop your hood without a warrant. Wow I bet there is going to be a lot of lawsuits over this.

5 million dollars? Come on lets give that to the schools or something instead of ****ING DOING BULL**** LIKE THIS!
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I also read bits. Sounds kinda ghey.. but I do think street racing should be stopped.
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I see.

So basically all the knock off parts that aren't DOT approved that you get off ebay, you can get ticketed for?

They can't pop your hood without a warrant. Wow I bet there is going to be a lot of lawsuits over this.

5 million dollars? Come on lets give that to the schools or something instead of ****ING DOING BULL**** LIKE THIS!
yeah, the cold air intakes that arent CARB(ca. air resources board) legal can get you tickets, as well as headers, off-road exhaust (no cats), etc.

and my point exactly about the money
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Old August 19th, 10:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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pimp my ride cars wouldnt count right?

and screw you i wanna get outa this hellhole and move to california
especially cupertino...near san diego (i think)

EDIT: nvm pimp my ride cars wouldnt count...im retarded...
Cupertino is like 45 minutes away from me, its east bay, so nor*cal, you're probably a good 9-10 hours from san diego. Its hard to get much further away than san diego.

Zpyro- is this only in sacramanto, mostly in sacramento or all over Cali?
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Old August 19th, 10:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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the article says Sacramento, but it's already been in use in San Diego and that story about the truck happened in Fresno. I know they have sideshows and stupid **** like that in oakland, I don't doubt that it will happen in the bay area as well
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