burningcow422

My dad isn't talking to me right now because I came to the same conclusion. Another reason why I hate politics.

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big_balla

That's funny.

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toXic

Locally, our election was great. All 3 school board positions that were up for election, the incumbents lost. Three new City Council members, and a new Magistrate.

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1337

DEA accounts for 1% of drug arrests. That is highly laughable and you should stop while you're ahead.

DEA will only be looking for big pushers pushing pounds across state lines. You really believe they are going to use their resources to kick down doors and bust people for smoking an ounce's worth? You must have voted for Romney.

martix_agent

He's Canadian so I'm sure he voted for Romney

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mLuH

I don't vote, and therefore I don't ***** at anyone for complaining about politics and who they vote for. It's hard to keep quiet sometimes though lol

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Crawdaddy

Hardly. I don't believe that you are going to have the DEA arresting people on the street but as long as you have two sets of laws you don't have legalization. I don't even smoke pot but I'd love to see it fully legalized in Canada but as long as the U.S government considers pot as lethal and dangerous as heroin that will never happen. Every time we get a step closer the U.S decides that maybe the borders could use a few more delays to make sure there are no truckloads of dangerous cannabis coming in.


Obama is right wing by Canadian standards.

hurdlebeast

QFT. It wasn't a matter of "which do I like better?", but more of a "which one will f*** this country up less?". I thought I was just a jaded, apathetic voter until I started talking to people, and found that quite a few individuals shared this view. It's a sad day in America when this is what our lauded political system is reduced to, but it was a long time coming. I'll wait to see what happens in 4 years before I decide if I'm moving to Mexico or not.

To quote Rush: "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

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Crawdaddy

And to quote Trooper:

There is great wisdom in Canadian rock.

Trbo323

obama- i got healthcare because of the guy and was therefor able to go back to school

how so? not that i keep up with politics like an addiction but the only thing i know of that could fall into this is he seems to be for stricter gun control however the only thing that has happened because of that is ammo prices have gone up. guns are still just as difficult to own now as before he was here.

on a side note, pot was legalized in Washington state.

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martix_agent

how about the ENTIRE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE BILL that he pushed through?

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Trbo323

which still does not require anyone to have health insurance

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toXic

If you do not have insurance you will have to pay a tax, fine, penalty or some other term they use to make it not sound like a tax/fine/penalty.

So people like myself, who has only went to the Doctor once in SEVERAL years, will have to either get insurance or give the government more money. Oh yea, the one time I went, I paid cash. It was about $75 and I was given a shot for my ailment.

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martix_agent

yep. no matter how it works, i'm being forced to pay into it.

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dprimmy

I can't be quoted on this - but if memory suits, its something along the line of 1-1.5% of your income or something that seems insignificant - but with tax rates already in place results in more money that you won't have paycheck to paycheck.

There's supposedly some other ramification for part-time employees.... where (hear-say) if you're working part time, but over 20something hours, you are to be offered insurance - which will result in part time positions becoming even more "part time" and the competency level of part time staff being even worse.


Largely - I just don't like the government having to protect its people because they're too stupid or poor to protect themselves. I find this to be a HUGE and flagrant flaw in our society and systems. EDUCATE...don't REGULATE. I've never been a fan of anti-hazing, anti-bullying, anti-stupidity laws or even Seat belt laws. If a person wants to be protected, they should exercise their better judgment to do so and not rely on the government to regulate something sense-based.

Don't want to die in an auto accident? I hear wearing a seat belt can help that. Don't want to participate in a hazing event? Some little bird told me that it doesn't come as a surprise that initiation events happen within groups ranging from chess club to the military to gangs..but they're no surprise to the participants. Hell, if smoking weren't a huge source of revenue to the government - they'd probably do more than slap a warning label on that too.

To me - entirely opinion based - If you wish to have health insurance, and its something you can afford to do - you should be able to have it. If you can't afford insurance - you shouldn't be required to pay for it.


Eah - but there's a second argument - do we offer urgent medical assistance to someone in need without questioning whether they're able to afford it? As long as that answer is "yes", there is an incurred expense for that - which has to be paid for by someone... and if Joe Homeless can't afford the medical costs - and Uncle Sam is bankrupt...someone's gotta front that bill.

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martix_agent

If i showed up at the ER, and couldn't afford it I don't know what I'd do. I really don't; I have too much pride to ask for help.

I did show up at the ER once, I cost me about $2000 because I was uninsured. I should have been smarter, and bought health insurance; would made it MUCH cheaper and i could afford that. This is my point though, most people without insurance say they can't afford it, but I bet they've not looked very hard. At the end of the year, I'm off my parents insurance and you bet i'm going to look for a cheap insurance plan.(thanks to obama; not sure if i agree with raising the age of childrens plans, but with real jobs hard to find it made a bunch of young voters happy)

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Zidane

The one that isn't anywhere even close to socialized medicine that instead requires everyone to buy insurance?

Socialized medicine would be a step up for this country, but the insurance companies have too much power to control health care. I hope that the Affordable Care Act is just a stepping stone towards social medicine and the US can catch up with the entire rest of the civilized world that doesn't bankrupt its citizens for getting sick.

Trbo323

i used to be this way too, then crohns came along and with 2 ER and several night hospital visits in the process of about 3 weeks the hospital bills alone would have been well over 100k without insurance. not to mention after the hospital visits the meds i was on were going to be running $600 a month without insurance seeing as the only meds that were out there for crohns at the time were name brand.

but lets look at this another way and assume you are not going to get sick, this happened to my sister about a month ago. she got hit by a drunk driver and his insurance did not cover her medically, granted nothing terrible happened to her mainly because she was in a 1-ton pickup but she still had some rather bad whiplash and was in enough pain for the hospital to put her on morpheme. her insurance picked up the bill

you can find insurance plans now that are under what most people pay for auto insurance, hell im paying around $150 a month and that is with a pretty good prescription plan since i am still on stuff (and always will be) for crohns. if you just want one with ER visits in mind its even ceaper. currently there were 2 large changes made by law to all insurance companies, #1 they can no longer take previous conditions into consideration, this is huge because you could be on your death bed and as long as you can pay they have to accept you. and #2 i believe this was only to plans that have some form of perscription coverage but it could be to all plans as well i dont remember, if you have prescription coverage then name brand meds MUST be included in that, they can no longer sell you a plan that only covers generics.

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