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**charlesotis** · September 7th, 07:52 PM

I was just wondering who here is a conservative, and who is a liberal. Also who is just completely not policaly active. if you could give an age tht would be good to, i am just curious.
I am 14 well 15 in a month and i am a complete right wing conservative

**E-99 king** · September 7th, 07:55 PM

Ummm i have no idea what those words mean lol

**PaintGirl** · September 7th, 07:57 PM

are you like 4?

Mike · September 7th, 07:59 PM

It's funny that kids your age label themselves as liberal or conservative. You know NOTHING about politics regardless of the class you take in freshman year of high school or what you hear from RL on the radio...

I'm conservative, for the record.

**Jinjiro** · September 7th, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mike
It's funny that kids your age label themselves as liberal or conservative. You know NOTHING about politics regardless of the class you take in freshman year of high school or what you hear from RL on the radio...

I'm conservative, for the record.

Uh, I'm 15 and while I don't know everything, I know enough. My 7th/8th grade social studies teacher would hold political debates for a class period or two, and he taught us tons. I didn't agree most of the time, but I got to see a different view point. I honestly don't know why you made that post, Mike. It's not like when you are 17 or younger you are ignorant, and as soon as you turn 18 all of this knowledge of politics floods your brain. Not to mention young people get political info from the same sources as older people. So while no one my age (15) is an expert, we definately know the basics...Or I should hope people my age would.

Oh yeah, I'm generally a Conservative. Can't agree with it all, but I agree w/ a majority of it.

~Jin

**PaintGirl** · September 7th, 08:13 PM

hey at least I know what they mean

**jonnythan** · September 7th, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Jinjiro
Uh, I'm 15 and while I don't know everything, I know enough. My 7th/8th grade social studies teacher would hold political debates for a class period or two, and he taught us tons. I didn't agree most of the time, but I got to see a different view point. I honestly don't know why you made that post, Mike. It's not like when you are 17 or younger you are ignorant, and as soon as you turn 18 all of this knowledge of politics floods your brain. Not to mention young people get political info from the same sources as older people. So while no one my age (15) is an expert, we definately know the basics...Or I should hope people my age would.

Oh yeah, I'm generally a Conservative. Can't agree with it all, but I agree w/ a majority of it.

~Jin

Most people of any age know absolutely nothing about politics and find themselves as a "conservative" or "liberal" based almost exclusively on socioeconomic status. I was "politically active" at 15 but now I realize that I really knew exactly nothing and just echoed the ramblings of Rush and Reagan I occasionally heard. Trust me, you know nothing. You won't get a rush of knowledge at 18, but soon enough you'll realize it takes a lot more work than you know to know anything at all. Read Chomsky and Coultier, listen to Rush. You simply don't have enough experience with life to make any real value decisions. 15 year olds hate hearing that they don't know jack about jack, but them's the breaks.

In any case, in reference to the poll, I think there need to be a few more options. Many people don't even realize that there are alternatives to those two labels. For example, I generally find myself associated with the Libertarian point of view. That puts me firmly on the "conservative" side of most economic issues and "liberal" side of most societal issues. For example, I'm heavily in favor of legalizing illicit drugs, but I'm also heavily in favor of curbing taxes and restrictions on business practices.

I'm also a big fan of the Constitution and I'm regularly awe-struck at how much the goverment completely ignores it. Sure, it's outdated in many ways, but that's why we have Amendments. Don't like it, fix it, don't ignore it.

**PaintGirl** · September 7th, 08:31 PM

most of the people I know base what they think they are on what their parents are

**Weasel-03** · September 7th, 08:32 PM

I am 14 and Im definatly conservative. I watch the news all the time. I watch all the channels too, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, NBC. I definatly have to say parents influence you a lot. But I try to form my own opinions. I like to get into debates especially with my friends that are not knowledgeable at all about politics. So I dont think it is right or accurate to say all of us kids dont or cant have opinions. My B****ing is over

***NYY*** · September 7th, 08:38 PM

i listen to the radio alot, and i agree with most conservatives and disagree with most liberals, therefore i consider myself conservative

**TinyTim** · September 7th, 08:40 PM

you kids are silly. You are almost all under 16 years old. You have no idea what you think. I have been a debator for the last 4 years and have read more casefiles then you know exsist. The idea that you can label yourself conservitive or liberal when you don't know what the government has happening.

**Spudchucker** · September 7th, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by jonnythan
[BIn any case, in reference to the poll, I think there need to be a few more options. Many people don't even realize that there are alternatives to those two labels. For example, I generally find myself associated with the Libertarian point of view. That puts me firmly on the "conservative" side of most economic issues and "liberal" side of most societal issues. For example, I'm heavily in favor of legalizing illicit drugs, but I'm also heavily in favor of curbing taxes and restrictions on business practices.
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yea we definitely need a libertarian option. Im in favor of what conservatives do as far as taxes and business stuff, and I dont know if libertarians are, but I would vote for a libertarian on the issue of legalizing illicit drugs alone.

**charlesotis** · September 7th, 08:41 PM

Most people my age are clueless but I am not. Dont say i am you do not know me. Anyway, if you consider yourself to be a conservative go to this sight and read the poem you will probably like it.
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecov...03/7/30/171829

Phantom13 · September 7th, 08:44 PM

Well first off, it is arrogant and stupid to think that minors know less about politics then anybody over 18. I know more about politics then alot of adults and I am 16. I have long political talks with my dad friends teachers and take a few classes as well as debates. It is very, very ARROGANT to say that teens uner 18 don't know about politics. That is very broad and very stereotypical. I bet I know more then 50% of adults. Now on the other hand, there are kids that listen to Anti-Flag and bands like that whom corupt the youth by implmenting their views into catchy songs.

And Tinytim, I can see what you are doing. If someone doesn't agree with your views, then you simply mark them off as a minor that doesn't know anything. I'd challenge you to a political debate any-day.

Conservative for the poll.

**jonnythan** · September 7th, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by charlesotis
Most people my age are clueless but I am not. Dont say i am you do not know me. Anyway, if you consider yourself to be a conservative go to this sight and read the poem you will probably like it.
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecov...03/7/30/171829

If you like that poem, then I can definitely say that you're clueless.

***NYY*** · September 7th, 08:49 PM

considering the extremely small amount of people over 18 that go to the polls to vote, i think that A LOT of teens know more about the gov that adults

**charlesotis** · September 7th, 08:55 PM

About the poem i wasnt saying if you like it you know stuff i just thought it was interesting. And i didnt make this thread for people to get flamed and for people to argue, if i wanted to i would have said which is better, or, do kids know what they are talking about, I simply made it to see who thought what and how old they were things like that, A survey you may call it.

Phantom13 · September 7th, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by NYY
considering the extremely small amount of people over 18 that go to the polls to vote, i think that A LOT of teens know more about the gov that adults

I agree, the adults are just too arrogant to relize it.

**jonnythan** · September 7th, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by charlesotis
About the poem i wasnt saying if you like it you know stuff i just thought it was interesting. And i didnt make this thread for people to get flamed and for people to argue, if i wanted to i would have said which is better, or, do kids know what they are talking about, I simply made it to see who thought what and how old they were things like that, A survey you may call it.

Well, I don't want to offend you, but you misspelled politically in the poll options. The fact that the only two choices are conservative and liberal make it completely worthless because it's a much more complex issue than that and most people who know what they're talking about don't fit into either.

**Weasel-03** · September 7th, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by jonnythan
Well, I don't want to offend you, but you misspelled politically in the poll options.

Is that all you can come up with for your arguement? So what if he only did to politial choices. it is his poll and those are the 2 major sides (combined they are about 85%+ of what people are).
Im sure if you were still young you would take our side. Some of us know what we are talking about. Stop sterotyping. You most likely know more but we are not complete idiots.

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