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March 17th, 11:05 PM
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argh! i typed up a huge thing about how going to get disagnosed with depression is retarded and poping pills to 'ease the pain' is even more stupid... but god damn duo pics made the forum crash and i lost my post.. thanks alot aholes...
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March 17th, 11:07 PM
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I have a friend with depression. If you think you have it I'd check it out. because my friend is no fun to be around when he doasn't take his pills. And you don't want people to not wanna be around you.
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March 17th, 11:09 PM
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D-smalls do you have any idea how many people would kll themselves or others if they didnt have pills.? there are a lot of crazy ****s out there and because of the liberal laws ot letting us stop them on a personal level we have to give them pills to keep them nice.
im not crying in my little hole or anything, i just have this constant down feeling (where the hell did you guys get the idea i was paradnoid out of this?) and i have had zoloft and i love the happy feeling it gives you
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March 17th, 11:36 PM
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i figure its more anxiety then depression...
but man... prozaic and that ****.. it doesnt cure.. it just covers up the pain and makes you not feel sad anymore.. still better then some.. that make you feel nothing at all...
depression is a chemical unbalence in your head... taking pills to just cover it up doesnt do anything.. like taking aspirn to cover up the pain of a busted arm.. isnt gonna fix the arm.. just makes you ignore the pain..
suicide cases jump when the patient is on such drugs.. and often they become way to dependant on the drugs.. or feel worse and worse...
im just saying.. drugs are retarded.. ****ing doctors have a drug for everything now in days... yeah i know some people depend on them for daily function.. but whats the point.. pop a couple pills a day so you can be excepted as a normal functing human.. mean while you are funtioning at all.. your a damn robot...
argh.. its jsut like ADD.. ****ing doctors.. every damn kid gets diagnosed with it now in days.. and sure they make the right diagnosis sometimes.. but putting them on ritalin.. sure it calms them down so they can learn the content in school.. but come on.. ignorant parents that give it to your kid too.. proper diets can also get around it and doesnt have the side effects of ritilan..
im going on a rant now though...
personally i figure.. work the **** out with out the use of a drug.. meh its nice to have a drug to fall back on when its REALLY bad.. but dont abuse the drug and use it all the time.. there are other ways...
(btw.. sure those drugs make ya not feel bad.. they come with quite a bit of side effects though.. might wanna check them out)
really, theres nothing that cant be settled by sitting down and having a talk with a really close friend.. or take up writting.. or some sort of creative hobbie to let things out.. i write.. works well...
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March 18th, 12:18 AM
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I always have the feeling of frustration and have a guilty concious so yeah i know how you feel.
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March 18th, 12:38 AM
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i have depression, i was diagnosed with it when i tried to commit suicide the first time. i spent a week in the psych ward and a year with a shrink. i refused meds i told her if i couldnt learn to deal with life without them then i shouldnt be here.
dont get me wrong life gets tough and meds would make things a lot easier but i dont believe in them.
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March 18th, 02:59 PM
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ok now that im not wasted anymore...
i think it makes sense to think i have some stress issues right now. the reason i couldnt put my finger on it before was because i just NEVER have stress, period. all my life i have had virtually NO stress because of my genetic make up, and i guess over this last year ive compounded stress from operating audiobin. I didnt know what to think because this is really a new feeling
no i dont have anxiety... i have no problem meeting and talking to people at all. i was just trying to get you guys to understand the best i could describe the feeling
as for you guys that are all against depression medicine, heres a perosnaly story.. my uncle is manic depressive. when he was in his early twenties he owned 3 movie theaters, two electronics store and did all sorts of crazy stuff. he was a wealthy entrepeneur. he got depression in his twenties, and because he never tried to get any help, didnt want pills, etc, he became an alcoholic and drug addict and lost virtually everything. he messed his life up so much that now he has to be on so much medication just to keep the physical pain down that he talks like he is absolutely hammered. just think... had he taken his pills he would have been a very successful happily married person right now
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March 18th, 04:00 PM
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That's not a gaurentee he'd still have it all. While it's still VERY possible, I don't think that's the whole case. People can learn to deal. Two years ago I was one of the most depressed people you could find. Lots of people were scared for me. I've never taken one anti depressant. I'm still not "happy" by any means, but I've learned to deal. Drugs/medication is one way, figuring it out yourself, in my opinion, is the better way though.
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March 18th, 05:16 PM
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when you have manic depression (one of the worst kinds) you dont even care enough about life to deal with it. you just stay in bed all day not giving a damn about the rest of the world. youre so sad you dont eat, you dont sleep, you dont do squat. you cant expect someone who is at rock bottom to try and work it out, because when you hit rock bottom you dont care enough to do so. manic depression is like an instant trip to rock bottom
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March 18th, 11:40 PM
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Ok heres a story for you guys who dont believe in meds. A friend of mine had manic depression. (I didnt wanna bring this up but I am to tell this kid to take his meds) He started to feel a little better when he got a girlfriend and some more good things started to happed in his life. He stopped taking his medication. He seemed fine for a while but three weeks later he was found dead in his bedroom. He had killed himself with a .12 gauge shotgun. I dont wanna see that happen to anyone else.
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March 18th, 11:43 PM
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i dont suggest for depressed people to get girlfriends, there is a tendency for a break up, and emotionally unstableness+break up= bad
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March 19th, 08:22 AM
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i think you need to start smoking more
Power_House's Reccomendation-AT LEAST 1 blunt a day.
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March 19th, 11:04 AM
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i have it..been dignosed twice..one of the main reasons i had to leave the air force..i was kinda kicked out..but it was mutual for me i guess.... i have taken prozac..doesnt change ****... i have found happyness in playing paintball an racing my car...look for happyness in a girl and your ****ed..hehe
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March 19th, 03:27 PM
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when you have manic depression (one of the worst kinds) you dont even care enough about life to deal with it. you just stay in bed all day not giving a damn about the rest of the world. youre so sad you dont eat, you dont sleep, you dont do squat. you cant expect someone who is at rock bottom to try and work it out, because when you hit rock bottom you dont care enough to do so. manic depression is like an instant trip to rock bottom
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Manic Depression is not as you describe it...at all. Manic Depressives go through fits or mood swings, one moment they may be happy and extremely impulsive (manic) the next they will be down and out (depression)....it is an on going cycle, but it has to do with the brain's chemistry and the bodies ability to regulate the mixture. Thats why I suggested exercise. The endorphins help to regulate mood more toward the happy side, and if someone did this consistently the body would begin to adjust to the new increase.
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March 19th, 07:55 PM
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u arent just recently tryin to quit smokin cuz that withdrawal can give u mad stress?
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March 20th, 02:47 PM
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spud what you are feeling is not depression necessarily, but anxiety. Millions of people have anxiety, if it gets to the point where you think its affecting your work/health, then go to a doctor
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March 20th, 03:06 PM
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Manic Depression is not as you describe it...at all. Manic Depressives go through fits or mood swings, one moment they may be happy and extremely impulsive (manic) the next they will be down and out (depression)....it is an on going cycle, but it has to do with the brain's chemistry and the bodies ability to regulate the mixture. Thats why I suggested exercise. The endorphins help to regulate mood more toward the happy side, and if someone did this consistently the body would begin to adjust to the new increase.
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Yea, manic depressant people are more or less the same as bipolar (the same from what I know, but there may be differences here and there). From what I've seen, medication doesn't help bipolar people either. It might keep them happy enough to want to stay living, but it doesn't really help the way they act or that other people view them.
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March 20th, 03:16 PM
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bipolar is just a nicer way of saying manic depressant
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March 20th, 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by D_Smalls
its jsut like ADD.. ****ing doctors.. every damn kid gets diagnosed with it now in days.. and sure they make the right diagnosis sometimes.. but putting them on ritalin.. sure it calms them down so they can learn the content in school.. but come on.. ignorant parents that give it to your kid too.. proper diets can also get around it and doesnt have the side effects of ritilan..
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ADD (Attention Deficit(sp?) Disorder) is a focus problem, ADHD (H-Hyperactivity) is what your talking about
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March 20th, 04:35 PM
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Solution to depression: either shoot yourself or get over it.
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