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August 16th, 10:16 PM
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Huffing Diesel Smoke
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Ya'll make it sound like getting a machine gun is difficult. When it isn't, at least here in Texas.
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August 16th, 10:16 PM
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automatic weapons are illegal buddy...so no one is gonna go full auto on ur ass.
and no one should own a gattling gun (gun fired from the waste)...theres no point.
They put banns to protect people. If they made dangerous weapons legal...i bet for every 1 person that uses it correctly...there are 5 that use it incorrectly.
I rather be flustered that i cant get a gattling gun.....then be worried that a guy i flick off at a intersection might pull that same gattling gun out of his trunk and **** me up.
Stop being immature...america has some of the LOOSEST gun laws in the world. and we pay for it by have an extreme amoutn of gun deaths a year.
In other countries your not even alowed to own handguns without a special liscence and a good reason....in america u can get ahold of the same weapons used by the US army and even special forces. Not only that but almost all states have concealed carry laws....meaning ur alowed to carry around a concealed weapon if you have a permit (which is basicly having backround check and taking a gun class which teaches u how to load a gun...and tells u not to shoot innocent people). Ok just think about it...other counties u cant even own a...and here you can walk around with a concealed one if you take a few classes.
Honestly u scare me man...your talkin about holding guns up to sumones head...about owning full auto mp5s....ur treatin guns like toys. wtf is wrong with you. Its one thing to get a gun for hunting...or sport shooting...but to own one just to own one and think its cool is asking for trouble.
your immature and the last thing u need is a gun.
Just stop complaining...u dont realize how loose the gun laws really are compaired to the world
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August 16th, 10:21 PM
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Stop being immature...america has some of the LOOSEST gun laws in the world. and we pay for it by have an extreme amoutn of gun deaths a year.
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I'm sorry, but you're a ****ing retard. Please abort life immediately.
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August 16th, 10:22 PM
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I never said I was getting a full auto MP5. You know you can buy just abotu ANY military gun out there in semi, right?
I want to have a gun closeby in case I need it. I quote " Guns are like condoms. I'd rather have one and not need to use it then not have one at all." My city is pretty messed up. I heard we got in the top 50 for crimes and stuff.
And who said I need to even fire a shot at an intruder? Me with an MP5A4 with all the bells and whistles is enough to scare the piss out of anyone even without firing a single shot. You never know when **** is going to hit the fan and you might need a gun.
If someone enters my house through a sunroof at 3 in the morning with a baseball bat, I don't think they're looking for sugar. And I don't think I'm going to shoot them. A simple "WTF are you doing?!" and a laser to the chest is enough to make anyone haul ass.
I like guns. I can't tell you why, but I like them. I want to be able to shoot the wings off a fly. I dont just want a gun/s for protection. Every Marine has to be 0311 (rifleman), and being on top of your marksmenship isn't going to hurt.
Flatliner, do you know what a Class 3 Federal Firearms license is? Its the license to own a full automatic, silenced or otherwise 'assault weapon'. You can't just go down to the local joe's gun depot and ask for an M249. He might have one to sell, but you need a Class3, and you can only get one if you have a reason to have one (Military, Police, etc)
EDIT: And any texan can't just go out and get a machinegun. You need a class 3 FFL. Do you know the definition of machinegun? An M16 isn't a machinegun. M60's, RPK's, M249's are machineguns.
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August 16th, 10:27 PM
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Flatliner you're ****ing stupid.
A gattling gun is a 6-barreled machine gun that fires around 3000 rounds per minute.
Fully automatic weapons ARE legal, have you heard of ClassIII licensing?
And America does NOT have loose gun laws. God you're even stupider than I thought.
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August 16th, 10:27 PM
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I like you as a member but I think you talk alot without being able to walk. talk about what you do....not what you want to do maybe someday.
heres an idea buy a civilian gun first and shoot alot. you can do most anything with a rifle as you can with a submachinegun.
sorry just don't talk about doing things if you can't yet.
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August 16th, 10:28 PM
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have u even been outside of the country? half of the countries on our standards (not iraq...like france or england) dont even alow you to own a gun. Some require extreme backround checks just to own a simple hunting shotgun. And to get a gun like a AR-15 is out of the question.
Have u ever seen the movie bowling for columbine? ya most the movie is total ****...but the statistics of gun deaths per year are very real. I dont like micheal moore much...and most of the movie is fake...however he is very right by saying we have an extremely higher death rate from guns then any other country.
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that is exactly why you should have one...u want one to want one. You have no practicle use for it...its people like you who get a gun and end up doinng something very wrong with it.
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August 16th, 10:28 PM
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When I move out, I'll probably just have a .45 or something in the closet. Having one under your pillow or your bed is overkill. Besides, if you have a dog you'll probably be left alone by most criminals (psycotic serial killers, and really desperate druggies being the exceptions).
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August 16th, 10:30 PM
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Flatliner, the typical XXXXXXX liberal american. Thinking that simply because someone has a gun they want to use it for terrible reasons. Somepeople just like guns. You like paintball guns do you not? Same thing, you can still kill a person with a paintball gun.
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August 16th, 10:31 PM
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I rather be flustered that i cant get a gattling gun.....then be worried that a guy i flick off at a intersection might pull that same gattling gun out of his trunk and **** me up.
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As opposite to slamming his car into you? I guess we should ban all cars?
You can not live your life in fear. Plus, as already mentioned, they ARE NOT illegal. Yet, according to you, there should be road-rage accidents featuring Gatling guns.
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Stop being immature...america has some of the LOOSEST gun laws in the world. and we pay for it by have an extreme amoutn of gun deaths a year.
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Thats a nice analogy. We have more gun deaths then Britain. But, they have more KNIFE deaths then us. Criminals still commit crimes. So, apparently Britain is PAYING for the EXTREME amount of KNIFE deaths by having STRICT gun laws??
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August 16th, 10:31 PM
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And America does NOT have loose gun laws. God you're even stupider than I thought
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!
I did a debate on weather we should have a concealed carry law or not...EXTREMELY huge grade in the class...it made up about 25% of ur final grade...so like everyone i reasurched the living **** out of the topic...and found out that the US is EXTREMELY loose with thier gun laws. I didnt think much before...but once u saw that in england that ur not alowed to own a gun...and in germany ur flat out not alowed to own a handgun...and you need to get a special liscence jsut to buy a sporting shotgun...i found that america is so much looser with gun laws.
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August 16th, 10:33 PM
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As opposite to slamming his car into you? I guess we should ban all cars?
You can not live your life in fear. Plus, as already mentioned, they ARE NOT illegal. Yet, according to you, there should be road-rage accidents featuring Gatling guns.
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the most used weapon in road rage is a fire arm. If alpha had his way and all weapons that would be fired from the hip is legal...im sure he would be totting a gattling gun in his back seat.
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August 16th, 10:36 PM
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Somepeople just like guns. You like paintball guns do you not? Same thing, you can still kill a person with a paintball gun.
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I dont own a paintball gun cuz i think paintball guns are pretty...its cuz i play paintball. And if you use paintball guns liek they are meant to be used you WILL NOT kill anyone.
If you use a gun how its supposed to be used...u will kill someone.
Thats a horrible analogy
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August 16th, 10:36 PM
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Flatliner, you forgot to mention about how the crime rate in england is SOARING after they banned 90%+ of firearms. Instead of giving pepole their gun rights back, they want to teach them how to treat gunshot wounds.
Does anyone remember what Hitler did? He took away everyones firearms and left them defenseless. LONG LIVE THE SECOND AMMENDMENT!
"If any SOB wants to take away my guns, I'll give them all my ammo first"
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August 16th, 10:39 PM
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who the hell said we want to take all guns away....
u really need to get a clue of wat we are talkin about.
Alpha is ranting on about how he wants to own full automatic weapons...and I am fully against that.
I have no problem with the laws now..and could care less if sumoen owns a handgun...however guns such as a full auto Mp5 DOES NOT belong and a civilians hands. I also think he should appreciate the fact that we can own guns at all...hes ranting on like owning a gun is a given...its not...we are pretty much the last country in the world that will let basicly ANYONE own a gun
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and untill you get that liscence they are ILLEGAL...and in order to get that liscence u must include one key peice of informantion that 99% of us dont have....a ligitamit reason to use a full auto weapon.
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August 16th, 10:40 PM
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however he is very right by saying we have an extremely higher death rate from guns then any other country.
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Of course, since we have MORE GUNS. Just like England (and all of europe for that matter) has far more knife deaths. Americans are also more likely to get into car accidents since we drive more then citizens from other nations.
Moore was carefull to use "Death rate from guns" instead of the actual "murder rate" since its HIGHER in Europe, despite the ban on most guns. Criminals just use whatever they can get there hands on.
The truth is that gun control never reduces crime.
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that is exactly why you should have one...u want one to want one. You have no practicle use for it...its people like you who get a gun and end up doinng something very wrong with it.
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And THIS IS THE REAL POINT. Why does someone need a "machine gun"? Well, to collect is a valid reason, and sport shooting, but this is NOT what the assualt weapons ban was about.
IT WAS ABOUT BANNING HUNTING RIFLES. Yes, they showed pictures of "evil looking" AKs and M16s, but can anyone here tell me the difference between an AK47 and a generic self-loading hunting rifle, like the Remmington 7600?
Mechanically THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. The liberals fooled everyone who supported the law (and STILL are).
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August 16th, 10:40 PM
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Flatliner, I want it for protection, and also for Marksmanship. Although for something like targets, I'd probably want to get a bushmaster or somethign close to teh feel of an M16.
I CAN NOT BUY NOR DO I WANT A FULL AUTOMATIC HECKLER AND KOCH MP5 SUBMACHINEGUN
If it were at all possible, I might, but there is somethign called a fire select switch. PErsonally I think that shooting any gun full auto is a waste of ammuition, whether it be 9x19mm rounds or paintballs. Burst and semi is the key to everything.
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August 16th, 10:42 PM
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!
I did a debate on weather we should have a concealed carry law or not...EXTREMELY huge grade in the class...it made up about 25% of ur final grade...so like everyone i reasurched the living **** out of the topic...and found out that the US is EXTREMELY loose with thier gun laws. I didnt think much before...but once u saw that in england that ur not alowed to own a gun...and in germany ur flat out not alowed to own a handgun...and you need to get a special liscence jsut to buy a sporting shotgun...i found that america is so much looser with gun laws.
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you did a what debate? so was this all verbal or did you have to put any of it in writing...cause weather or not you reasurched it or not you are wrong. The brits had there guns removed by the government. The aussies had the same joke played on them. But how is it then that there is even a stat comparing gun deaths from america to england...there should be none right? well they still get guns often guns that would be illegal even in america. So people are using guns in crime and people have no way to protect themselves.
Don't hate on my guns.
As far as the idea that a gun that can shoot from the hip is a gun that should be illegal...well my ar can shoot from the hip but its not accurate from that stance. maybe you should grow up a few years and talke a look at whether its a bad thing or not.
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August 16th, 10:44 PM
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And THIS IS THE REAL POINT. Why does someone need a "machine gun"? Well, to collect is a valid reason, and sport shooting, but this is NOT what the assualt weapons ban was about.
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