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Old November 9th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My sniper package

I tricked out my 98c with a buttstock,22 inch barrel and a sweeet scope. Whaddya think?
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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Honestly - do what you like...If it makes your twig and berries tingle to think about it....go for it.

The common opinion of the "masses" here...despite our lack of mass...

is that you're going to be adding a lot of bolt-on aesthetic to your marker.


*Barrel accuracy does not improve based on length - only (possibly) user accuracy
*Shot distance does not increase based on barrel length - function of velocity
*Scopes aren't necessary as they're usually mounted too low to be useful, the hitbox of a marker at 100 feet is a trash-can lid, and your own eyes can sight out to 1/3 of a football field pretty effectively.

And in its own breakout:
A butt-stock can be useful if you're running a remote line, as it'll allow you to shoulder the marker - though if you are just adding it above the tank, you're creating something very awkward to shoulder. Your best bet, *yes...even with a T98* is to use the tank as a buttstock. Realistically - using a buttstock is going to force your arm and elbow to be parallel to the ground, increasing your profile. Just like in baseball..a big strike-zone is a horrible waste of space. Using the tank will allow you to drop your elbow from parallel to perpendicular, reducing your profile substantially.


Now...MATH TIME!!!!

22" Barrel
14" Marker
lets say... 12" 20oz tank including ASA overlap & valve..

22+14+12 = 46"

46- 36 = 1 yard, 10 inches... so.. almost a 4 foot tall marker.

How are you going to move, maneuver, and switch hands back and forth quickly and effectively with that??!?


Just to emphasize this - this is MY opinion of your desired upgrades. BUT - if you get a funny feeling in your twig and man-berries... by all means, don't let my opinion stop you.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I loveed that comment. I see your point. It made me laugh about the twig and berry thing. The barrel is really for looks and the scope is kinda for looks also.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you used first strikes it would make more sense, but I don't think you do.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you used first strikes it would make more sense, but I don't think you do.
No, those only run through a special maagzine I believe. I don't think i can just throw those in my 98 custom and be good to go. I could be wrong though.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You're probably not going to get the accuracy that you are looking for then.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 03:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No, those only run through a special maagzine I believe. I don't think i can just throw those in my 98 custom and be good to go. I could be wrong though.
you can, but it'd be expensive. You'll have to buy a Tacamo mag conversion kit and mil-sig first strike mags.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 10:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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other than that you would have to breach load them 1 at a time
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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old November 26th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That would be fun to do at a big game. Breach load first strikes and use only them.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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now i want to design a double barrel break away shotgun.....
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^^ IS it sad that I started sketching, designing, selecting barrels, and thinking about what grip-frames I have laying around, how to develop a closed bolt marker that would seal properly after repeated opening/closing... a hinging mechanism, deciding poppet or spool, and trying to figure out how to do it all as "ONE" marker, one trigger, one velocity adjustment...and not 2 markers wired...or just taped together.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well at least im not the only one who has pondered this idea
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You know, they already make double barrel pumps right?

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i had seen some made by ?lapco? but not really been a fan i would like to change out barrels and feedtubes
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Palmers makes them.

I've seen one that was a top/bottom double barrel. it was glorious.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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^^ IS it sad that I started sketching, designing, selecting barrels, and thinking about what grip-frames I have laying around, how to develop a closed bolt marker that would seal properly after repeated opening/closing... a hinging mechanism, deciding poppet or spool, and trying to figure out how to do it all as "ONE" marker, one trigger, one velocity adjustment...and not 2 markers wired...or just taped together.
gas through the grip up to a spyder valve towards the back of the marker, one for each barrel, then place the hammer in front of that, air passage just behind where the hammer is at rest to the barrel, sear releases the hammer which goes backwards to the valve, opens in and a burst of air is shot into the hammer face, throwing the hammer forwards and once it clears the air port the air is then shot into the barrel propelling the paint out. once the air is vented the hammer returns to its rest on the sear by spring tension and is ready for the next shot

id go two triggers but leave the front one with enough travel space to make it possible to pull the back one as well

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Old November 28th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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^^ IS it sad that I started sketching, designing, selecting barrels, and thinking about what grip-frames I have laying around, how to develop a closed bolt marker that would seal properly after repeated opening/closing... a hinging mechanism, deciding poppet or spool, and trying to figure out how to do it all as "ONE" marker, one trigger, one velocity adjustment...and not 2 markers wired...or just taped together.
gas through the grip up to a spyder valve towards the back of the marker, one for each barrel, then place the hammer in front of that, air passage just behind where the hammer is at rest to the barrel, sear releases the hammer which goes backwards to the valve, opens in and a burst of air is shot into the hammer face, throwing the hammer forwards and once it clears the air port the air is then shot into the barrel propelling the paint out. once the air is vented the hammer returns to its rest on the sear by spring tension and is ready for the next shot

if you think of the air vent that is in spyders already to release the air in the lower tube once the hammer is re-cocked that is basically what is then routed to the barrel. valve would need some work to allow more air through but seems like it would work


id go two triggers but leave the front one with enough travel space to make it possible to pull the back one as well

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