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mootauros · July 8th, 01:04 PM

ah oky thanks for the correction wil definetly save up some money for that and thanks for your help

mootauros · July 8th, 04:13 PM

Hi guys another thing the spyder electra or spyder rs is the electronic stuff they got good quality or does it gives problems allot because i dont want anything that gives problems and if it can give problems what is another good gun similar to these guns that arent electronic or what you wil suggest between spyder , tippman and bt

**TheAznInvazn** · July 8th, 04:15 PM

Spyder hands down, they're fine, no problems

mootauros · July 8th, 04:27 PM

ah oky thanks allot by Friday i wil have my spyder then.

mootauros · July 9th, 06:06 AM

Hi guys I ordered a spyder electra 09 because they didnt have the spyder rs and they said the electra is just as good, 1 question the electra comes with eyes and you can switch it on and off if you shoot what is the eyes and what does it do?

Weever · July 9th, 08:33 AM

Eyes is an anti-chop system. They takes place in the ball chamber, and they check if there's a ball. If there's one, the marker can shoot without any problem. If there's no ball, the marker won't shoot. This prevent bolt chop.

BTW the Electra is IMO a better marker than the RS, it's smaller, lighter, and run on lower pressure. So it shoots slightly smoother.

Edit : both got the SE tech, so both will shoot just as smooth. My mistake.

mootauros · July 9th, 08:47 AM

Ah oky thanks allot yeah wil comment again tomorrow after i shot with it and i hope i wil be happy with I also bought myself a vl evolution 3 hopper what do you think of it? and thanks allot for everyones help.

mootauros · July 9th, 08:53 AM

Ah oky thanks allot wil comment again after i shot with the gun i bought myself a vl evolution 3 hopper what do you think of it? and is instinct slasher good paint that wont chop easily? thanks allot for your help

**TheAznInvazn** · July 9th, 09:47 AM

If you can return it or cancel your order, then do so and get the Eye-Force
The eVLution3 is not as durable, not as fast, not as consistant, and is an overall inferior hopper

mootauros · July 9th, 09:51 AM

Ah oky thanks wil do so and the instinct slasher paint is that good?

**TheAznInvazn** · July 9th, 09:59 AM

Never heard of it

mootauros · July 9th, 10:14 AM

Ah oky thanks

**TheAznInvazn** · July 9th, 10:30 AM

No wonder I've nenver heard of it

I live in the States and you live in South Africa
Paint can vary from country to country and continent to continent

mootauros · July 9th, 10:59 AM

ah oky yeah just wanted to know if you know it but the guy i buy it from says its good so i wil just try it out thanks man.

**Trbo323** · July 9th, 12:03 PM

i agree with azn on the hopper, go with the eye force over teh evo 3,

weever-if im not mistaken the rs has the g3 balance valve and i dont think it has migrated its way into the electra yet (perhaps in an attempt to keep it co2 friendly) but if i am correct on that it would mean the rs would supposedly have better preformance (by a slight margin) but co2/HPA would overide it anyway, if he needs co2 its electra all the way

**TheAznInvazn** · July 9th, 12:09 PM

Actually, the RS uses Spyder's SE Valve System, like the Electra, and not the G3 Balance Valve

**Trbo323** · July 9th, 12:12 PM

SE? i have not heard of this yet, do tell!

**TheAznInvazn** · July 9th, 12:20 PM

It's just the regular old spyder valve system with high flowing parts
:P

mootauros · July 9th, 12:24 PM

ah oky yeah thx wil definetly look into getting that one then. what markers do you guys play with?

**Trbo323** · July 9th, 12:26 PM

o cool beans, CO2 friendly then?

here are the two markers i play with

Trbo323's DM6 & Autococker superstock

its taken about 5 years for me to get to this point....maybe a little more, i forgot when i started exactly

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