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Old January 29th, 2013, 02:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Close fitting mask for use with sights.

I have a pump gun that I modded to take first strike and a 3x fixed scope with offset scope mounts. Most of the time I play on my property and I wear a heavy balaclava and full seal airsoft goggles. I have taken a direct hit to the face with this and it didn't hurt much or leave a mark, I trust it and this setup works well for me. The problem is I cant use that on a field, so I am looking for something that I can use on a field and still allows me to use the sights.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve been up for the past 30 hours, but if what you’re saying is that you use airsoft goggles while playing paintball, stop being a moron idiot stupid person.

I think you’re looking for a mask that makes it possible to look through your scope? In which case most masks will be about the same, but I found the i4’s to be very tight to my face; to the point which my eyelashes would basically touch the lens.

It will, however, vary due to the shape of your face, and the best advice I can give is go down to your local field/proshop and try on a bunch of different masks-- even bring the marker with you; I’m sure they’d be fine with that.

and hey. if anyone reads this why is my name grey now? my name be looking fine baby.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 08:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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do you want to loose as eye?
do you want to give somebody else mental issues because they injured you?
DO NOT PLAY PAINTBALL WITHOUT A PROPER PAINTBALL RATED MASK!!!EVER
you are playing with fire and will eventually injure yourself. Airsoft mesh masks are not intended for use with paintball, the mesh can give out and cause MAJOR INJURIES that will effect you your entire life.


As for a small mask, the DYE I4 mask is pretty small, as are the SLY profits.
The proflex isn't as small, but the front part of it is made of a flexable rubber.

I dunno why you're using sites though, paintballs don't fly far or straight enough to make use of them.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're using first strikes, then it's a little more accurate. Why is it that you need such a tight fitting mask? Are you going to be touching your eyes to the iron sights? Honestly, you're not going to really notice the difference between masks as far as distance goes.

I don't know about you, but I think that a paintball park may know about safety a little bit more than you do. There is a reason why ALL paintball parks/fields require you to wear a mask.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a pump gun that I modded to take first strike and a 3x fixed scope with offset scope mounts. Most of the time I play on my property and I wear a heavy balaclava and full seal airsoft goggles. I have taken a direct hit to the face with this and it didn't hurt much or leave a mark, I trust it and this setup works well for me. The problem is I cant use that on a field, so I am looking for something that I can use on a field and still allows me to use the sights.
The effective range of a paintball is 100ish feet. First strikes are about 125 feet. There was a sniper competition that Wolf...some paintball uTube celebrity competed in (max range was 75 feet with accurate breaks on target..5 rounds...mostly First Strike).

100 feet is 33 yards. 125 feet is 41 yards. Think about that and compare it against a high school football field and running track. That's..not a very large distance.

So then the question in my mind comes to - "Why would you need iron sights to target something that close?"

This isn't even taking into consideration the low output velocity and parabolic motion of the projectile....along with the rate of drop over the total distance the ball is falling.

With gravity pulling at 33 feet/second, from a mostly flat-line trajectory, from a 6 foot high shooting platform (no arc) you'd have roughly 1/5th a second time lapse to hit your target.

300 feet per second x 1/5th second total time puts you shooting the guy's big toe at a 60 foot max range..

While First Strikes are exempt from some range and trajectory issues - they're not able to counteract gravity.

At 60 feet, iron sights would be worthwhile...but...truth be told...your baseball throwing arm could probably hit him with a paintball at that range. 60 feet is 20 yards. Assuming a 6 foot human body measure...that's 10 body height distances. Are iron sights really needed?

Note - all BS math is done assuming no resistance, no wind, and perfect conditions and situations. Real World figures (except in a tail-wind) are likely to scale even lower...more off target...or result in reduced effective range.

So....taking this ALLLL in and wrapping it all up. Sights are good up to about 60 feet...in perfect conditions. If you can get 10 body lengths from your target, you should be able to shoot them from the hip. There's no need to stare down iron sights. BE SAFE. NOT STUPID.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 10:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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if anyone reads this why is my name grey now? my name be looking fine baby.
Got tired of continually editing my last post - this should allow me to move on..


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Old January 29th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Got tired of continually editing my last post - this should allow me to move on..


Check your join date WaL. You're a 1 year old!
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Old January 29th, 2013, 10:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I've got a few myself. I'd had them for a while though; not enough to bother me yet.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 12:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Its NOT a mesh mask its basically the lens section of a paintball mask with the rest cut away, mesh googles aren't even allowed at many airsoft feilds. Its also not iron sights it's a 3x scope w/ offset mount sighted for about 60-65 feet. When you have 16 rounds between a pistol and a pump gun and your target doesn't know your there yet you don't want to miss, that's why I use sights, and when I have 16 shots I don't want to get in an accuracy by volume fire fight with an electric gun so I check if that blob by the tree 100 yards out is a person or a bush is the reason why I use a scope with magnifacation. It works well for me.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 12:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its NOT a mesh mask its basically the lens section of a paintball mask with the rest cut away, mesh googles aren't even allowed at many airsoft feilds. Its also not iron sights it's a 3x scope w/ offset mount sighted for about 60-65 feet. When you have 16 rounds between a pistol and a pump gun and your target doesn't know your there yet you don't want to miss, that's why I use sights, and when I have 16 shots I don't want to get in an accuracy by volume fire fight with an electric gun so I check if that blob by the tree 100 yards out is a person or a bush is the reason why I use a scope with magnifacation. It works well for me.
Is your lens rated for 300fps impacts from paintballs? Is the mask associated with the lens made for 300fps impacts from paintballs? There's a reason one of the front-runner companies in the industry was unable to release a highly sought after mask...and it seems that cost and safety were having issues lining up. (Angel Eyes). While airsoft rounds may be able to travel at higher velocities and have a smaller footprint on impact, they do not have the mass of a paintball. If a public field isn't willing to trust your airsoft goggles to keep you safe...and they're insured against accidents - why would you trust them?

You only get one set of eyes. Ear transplants/implants are only marginally successful. You only get one chance to decide whether you're going to side with safety, or risk becoming a statistic.

In regard to scopes - you're going to do what makes your twig and berries feel fancy. Any data or information I give you about your eye's tendencies, the relative accuracy of your marker, break chance and potential, along with removing your field of vision from the active environment to look at a little 3x3x3 cube out 100 yards is going to fall on deaf ears. Do what you like.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I bought two of my airsoft goggles so I could test them my self, I shot a full hopper at one of from 5 feet away with my marker turned all the way up, it faired better then a paintball certified mask that broke.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 11:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well if those are mesh masks yes of course it survived, the mesh breaks the paintball but the force is not stopped by the mesh, the force as well as bits of shell continue through...to your face and eyes....

not to mention masks are rated to 300fps, what you did is take circumstances that would never happen on a field and then are saying the mask that is rated for field circumstances is somehow not good

which is a lot like saying my car is safe in a 60pmh crash, but when I dropped it out of an airplane it did not hold up like the crash test...

if you play regularly it is a good idea to replace a lens every year, I have never owned a lens that has taken more than about 20 hits and suddenly you are surprised when you pelt one from point blank, above 300fps and with more paint than would ever hit a mask lens in one spot in its lifetime let alone a year?
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Man everyone is off topic he wants a paintball mask he can use with a scope not a lecture on using airsoft gear for paintball. Short answer is that there isn't one that works with a scope the eye relief needed for a scope means that masks don't work. First Strikes are hella cool and a good sight will actually work with them because the ballistics are better than with paintballs as you already know so a sight isn't a bad idea at all. My advice is to get a thermal paintball mask that you find comfortable and then get a basic reflex sight for your offset rail you can get a simple red dot sight for about $28 anywhere they sell hunting or shooting gear.
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hey, I gave him a few masks to go with. Not everyone is only judging him.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 12:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Its NOT a mesh mask its basically the lens section of a paintball mask with the rest cut away, mesh googles aren't even allowed at many airsoft feilds. Its also not iron sights it's a 3x scope w/ offset mount sighted for about 60-65 feet. When you have 16 rounds between a pistol and a pump gun and your target doesn't know your there yet you don't want to miss, that's why I use sights, and when I have 16 shots I don't want to get in an accuracy by volume fire fight with an electric gun so I check if that blob by the tree 100 yards out is a person or a bush is the reason why I use a scope with magnifacation. It works well for me.
hold up... what mask are you using specifically?

JT does manufacture a Spectra mask targeted for airsoft... which is basically the proflex frame and it uses the standard spectra lenses
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well if those are mesh masks yes of course it survived, the mesh breaks the paintball but the force is not stopped by the mesh, the force as well as bits of shell continue through...to your face and eyes....

not to mention masks are rated to 300fps, what you did is take circumstances that would never happen on a field and then are saying the mask that is rated for field circumstances is somehow not good

which is a lot like saying my car is safe in a 60pmh crash, but when I dropped it out of an airplane it did not hold up like the crash test...

if you play regularly it is a good idea to replace a lens every year, I have never owned a lens that has taken more than about 20 hits and suddenly you are surprised when you pelt one from point blank, above 300fps and with more paint than would ever hit a mask lens in one spot in its lifetime let alone a year?
I Have never Said it was a mesh mask, I did say it was not. And by you logic the lense that held up is weaker then the lense that broke, that makes very little sense.

I realize that it is not the safest, thus why I started this thread.
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