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Old February 5th, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Somethign about Compressed Air/Nitro/HPA

All guns can use nitrogen/Compressed air/HPA. Nitrogen/Compressed air/HPA is all the same thing. REmember the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen. THey rarely fill tanks with nitrogen nowadays becuase compressers are cheaper over time, and easier.

You can put compressed air in ALL MARKERS.

Your Spyder can take HPA.
Your Tippmann can take HPA.
Your Brass EAgel can take HPA.


This question is asked a helluva lot.
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Old February 5th, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes this question is asked alot. Thanks for clearing up the confusion. I know this post isn't much, but i think it should be stickied to stop the repeated questions about it.
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Old February 5th, 10:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if anybody read sticky's i'd say sticky it. and no you do not HAVE to have a regulator or anything like that to go with it. and NO an expansion chamber with hpa is just useless.
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Old February 6th, 08:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old February 6th, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not sure there, but here almost everyplace does use actual Nitrogen and not compressed air, since it is supposed to be more stable and have less moisture.

Now I have heard from a few people that Argon is even better to use (although it is priceier) since its the most stable inert gas. Has anyone tried that?
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Old February 6th, 10:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You can put compressed air in ALL MARKERS.

Your Tippmann can take HPA.
Your Brass EAgel can take HPA.
Not exactly true. Many guns in the early 90s were designed to run liquid, and those could not run HPA. Examples are Tippmann Pro/Ams, Montneels, Elliminators, Patriots, etc.

My beautifull Mega-Z can not run HPA, and I see no reason to run it anyway.

But.... any gun made TODAY can run HPA.

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I envy you nick. Beign able to ball before the 30bps era. :

YOu think part of the reason why older markers worked well on siphons has anythign to do with teh fact that it pb started in NH where its cold?
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and NO an expansion chamber with hpa is just useless.
But it doesnt hurt.
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I believe X-chambers work by heating up the liquid CO2 by forcing the liquid through diamond shaped chambers. Not too sure. Anyways this could cause a small pressure change with CO2, and I'm willing to bet with HPA it will be more. This will result in velocity fluctuations.
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Old February 7th, 10:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Expansion chambers are merely there to expand the liquid into gas, by, yes heating it up a bit, but most of all, giving it room to expand. Either expand the container that liquid CO2 is in, or heat it up and you'll solve the problem.

An expansion chamber doesn't do anything for stuff that's already gas. The gas just flows right through. HPA won't be affected by an exp chamber.
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The main purpose is to add surface area to the CO2 system so it can better absorb heat.
It needs to absorb heat to properly convert to the liquid to gas.
Remember, CO2 is a refrigerant. It gets cold when the liquid boils, and the pressure drops as a result. You want to avoid this.

What this does is greatly improve cold weather performance, effeciency and drop-off.

As good as nitro? no. As good as a regulator? not really.
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