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June 6th, 09:51 AM
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Yeah yeah, laugh
Ok I know nothing about compressed air tanks so I have some questions. Yeah, it's pretty noobish...
1. How do tanks differ in size and how do you tell?
2. What do all the numbers mean? (example 45/3000)
3. How do you tell if a gun needs compressed air?
4. Are HPA, nitro, and compressed air all the same?
Thanks
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June 6th, 10:10 AM
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1. The bigger the first number (volume) the bigger the tank
2. The first number is Cubic Inches (volume) The second is the PSI (Pounds per square inch)
3. All guns run better on compressed air, high end guns require it
4. nitro (nitrogen) is cleaner than compressed air
Compressed air is N-2o nitro is just n2
your cocker needs Coompressed air or nitro. Until you get the money use a Co2 tank with an anti siphon tube (use search button)
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June 6th, 10:20 AM
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What would be a good size tank to get? should i get a HPA or a nitro?
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June 6th, 02:00 PM
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68/4500 is the best tank not too big not to small it is almost the equivalent of a 20 oz. co2. HPA and nitro are the same.
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June 6th, 02:09 PM
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there are only 2 kinds of tanks, not 3. there are compressed air tanks and co2 tanks. compressed air is hpa or watever you want to call it.
a good size tank would be a 68/4500. the 68ci is a very good size because it is not huge nor is it too small, so you would be able to last 1 or more games on it. you would definatly want a 4500psi tank because you can get more shots out of the tank because you can hold more air. all 4500psi tanks are corbon fiber wrapped, which is lighter and prefferable to most players.
1. they differ in size by how many pounds per square inch (psi) they can hold, and how large the tank actually is (measured in cubic inches or ci)
2. the first number is how large the tank is (ci) and the second is how many psi it can hold. there are only 3 psi ratings, which are 3000, 4500, and 5000. there are many more ci ratings, such as 45 and 68.
3. most higher end guns need compressed air. you will be able to tell easier as you learn about paintball. any gun can use compressed air if the output is right (800psi output reccommended)
4. basically yes. you really don't need to worry arout the differences since most places fill compressed air (HPA (high pressure air)) nowadays.
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June 6th, 04:13 PM
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Nitro is pure nitrogen, but is rarely seen. Its now most often just compressed atmospheric air (the air you breathe), which happens to be made up of mostly nitrogen. 78% I think, but don't quote me on that. Usually it is refered to as hpa.
Aside from what everybody else mentioned about types of tanks, there are also lp (low pressure) and hp (high pressure tanks). As well as fixed and adjustable psi tanks (self explanetary I hope). Hp tanks are usually set around 800 and will work with the vast majority of low end markers. Some low end markers are built to run on low pressure, and many people mod their markers to run low pressure, but if you have a stock blowback it will probably need a hp tank. Lp tanks are made for higher end markers that operate at a lower psi to improve efficency as well as overall performance. Hope that helps.
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June 6th, 04:44 PM
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Compressed air is N-2o nitro is just n2
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Compressed air is a mixture of a whole bunch of gasses, not n2o.
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June 6th, 05:00 PM
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did u ever think to look in the air systems forum and the nice sticky that tippmanbeast made?
Air system FAQ's and Everything else
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June 6th, 05:40 PM
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Compressed air is HPA, it's to different ways to put the same thing. Think about it, HPA stands for high pressure air. When you put a high amount of pressure on something it compresses.
Nitrogen is pure nitrogen, but HPA is mostly nitrogen anyway. Some fields will use nitrogen, some will use HPA. They both use the same tanks.
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June 6th, 07:12 PM
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[quote=Elliswithagun]Ok I know nothing about compressed air tanks so I have some questions. Yeah, it's pretty noobish...
1. Tanks come in two measures. Cubic inch, and PSI. The first number is always cubic inch. A 45/4500 tank is 45 cubic inches, adn stores air at 4500PSI.
Not all guns need compressed air, but high end guns that have solenoids that activate valves do need compressed air.
Compressed air is the same as HPA. HPA stands for High Pressure Air. Nitro is the same thing too. COmpressed air is only 78% nitrogen, while Nitrogen is 100% nitrogen. There is no difference to the paintball player.
Nitro was brought into paintball by a man named Tom Kaye. He is the "underdog" of paintball, and few remember all that he did for the sport. YOu can thank Tom for semi-automatics being legal, and nitro tanks. His invention, the AGD RT valve requires Nitrogen. Or else the O-rings willc rack and it will leak.
Most other guns that have sensitive O-rings or electronics integrated into the marker need HPA. An electro spyder does not becuase the air system is not tied inwith any of the electronics or solenoid. Its all in the grip frame.
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June 7th, 01:21 AM
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hpa, compressed air, n2, n2o, hpa, nitro what ever else ppl are calling it is all the same thing... basically.. one has only nitrogen other is the same air you breath.. most places will use regular air becouse it is cheaper,, there is no diffrence in the use or performance at all.. but all of the above is far better than co2 in every way.... co2 is dirty cheap nasty incosistant and cold(freezez up gun)
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June 7th, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by imprez55
there are only 2 kinds of tanks, not 3. there are compressed air tanks and co2 tanks. compressed air is hpa or watever you want to call it.
a good size tank would be a 68/4500. the 68ci is a very good size because it is not huge nor is it too small, so you would be able to last 1 or more games on it. you would definatly want a 4500psi tank because you can get more shots out of the tank because you can hold more air. all 4500psi tanks are corbon fiber wrapped, which is lighter and prefferable to most players.
1. they differ in size by how many pounds per square inch (psi) they can hold, and how large the tank actually is (measured in cubic inches or ci)
2. the first number is how large the tank is (ci) and the second is how many psi it can hold. there are only 3 psi ratings, which are 3000, 4500, and 5000. there are many more ci ratings, such as 45 and 68.
3. most higher end guns need compressed air. you will be able to tell easier as you learn about paintball. any gun can use compressed air if the output is right (800psi output reccommended)
4. basically yes. you really don't need to worry arout the differences since most places fill compressed air (HPA (high pressure air)) nowadays.
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Not every gun can use compressed air. The name slipped my mind, but there is a few guns that only run on co2. Something is strongly telling me that palmers made that.
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