[ajpeters12]

Lol rich noob marker section lmao thats so true. I was playing a game a bunch of my friends. one of them had invited his cousin and he brought his Bob Long Alias Intimidator $1400 gun! my friend told me his dad was a surgeon... figures

[Lang]

would this be a good setup to aspire too with the a-5?

Tippmann A-5 With E-Grip
J&J 14" Ceramic Barrel
Dead on Double Trigger
APE Rampagae Board Version 2.0
Tippmann A5 folding stock-AK47
Crossfire High Pressure N2 Tank - 88ci 4500psi
Ricochet R5 Hopper
Stovepipe Adapter
Techt Cyclone feed squishy paddles

[kenny_1491]

Yes, seems to be a very nice setup.

[JeffD]

I wish I could afford some of this stuff lol.

[BoBsMiTh]

I have a couple of questions that have been confusing me (no particular order):

1) What is a "Halo" and why is it good to have one?
2) What is meant by a Rocker Trigger?
3) What is an "eye"?
4) What is better to have, a CO2 or Compressed Air? Can any marker be either, or if it uses CO2 it must always use CO2?

5) What is an E-Grip
6) What is the 2nd "Barrel" I see under some markers barrel (the short one)?
7) What is a mini expansion chamber for? Is it for the temperature expansion due to the use of CO2 in the markers or is that not at all what it is for?

Thank you for this Thread, my first question was "Which Markers should I look at?" Now I know. I would like to get into playing mostly woods ball and possibly the odd speed ball game. I still do not understand the difference between a marker used for Woods ball as opposed to speed ball? After reading this thread I'm leaning towards the 98 Custom pro or the A5. From the sounds it is a good beginner marker and can be used for speed ball as well, or am i incorrect in that? Also i have been told Compressed air is better because it is easier to access, cheaper, and easier on your marker. is that true or is it all personal preference. I have noticed that most markers are CO2.

Any help that can be given is appreciated! Sorry for the long message these are the things that caught me as i was reading this thread.

Thank you,

[Uphoria]

1. It's an electronic hopper which feeds balls into your gun faster.
2. not sure myself
3. eyes are mainly in electronic guns and are used to detect if there is a ball in the breach or not. This is to prevent ball chopping
4. HPA is better than CO2, some guns can use both but it is always better to have compressed air (HPA)
5. An egrip basically makes a tippmann gun electronic allowing it to fire automatic, 3 shot burst and semi auto
6. I think you are talking about a 2 piece barrel system where the smaller one is the barrel back and the larger is the barrel front
7. expansion chambers allow CO2 more time to expand thus making it more consistent. However with the price of getting and xpansion chamber and C02 you might as well just get a steel HPA tank.

[Weever]

1. The halo is an electro-hopper with a great reputation. It is very fast and reliable, which make it a good choice when considering to buy a new Hopper.

2. The rocking trigger is a special grip made by Kingman (the company who make the spyders). It has 2 contact points, which can help to improve the walking motion with fingers, and shoot faster. However, this trigger is not allowed in some tournaments, is overpriced, and doesn't help to learn how to walk a standard trigger.

3. An eye is a LED or a laser placed in the ball chamber. It help the marker to verify if there's a ball in the chamber before shooting, which prevent the marker to "chop" the ball.

4. Co2 and Compressed air (or Nitro, or N2). Any marker can run with Compressed air, but usually only low ends marker can run with CO2. Each of them have some advantage over the other one. Co2 is cheaper (a 20oz tank can be found brand new at 20$) while Compressed air tanks are alot more expensive (a 68cu/4500 psi, which give about the same amount of shot than a 20oz of Co2 tank, can be found brand new around 160$). However, Compressed air is more stable, and doesn't get cold when expanding, which gives more consistent shots, and so more precision. And because it is not getting cold, it reduces the chances to freeze the marker internals, and break them. Also, Co2 is usually easier to be found around.

5. E-Grip stand for electronic grip, which means the trigger is electronic. Since the trigger is alot lighter, it is alot more easy to push on it, and help to shoot faster. E-grip usually comes with some special mode, like 3-burst shots, auto-shot or ramping.

6.The 2nd "barrel" (it is not a barrel) is called the low pressure chamber (LPC). The LPC help to bring more air to the valve, using a lower pressure. This is a good thing when using brittle paint, and helps to reduce kick.

7. The mini expansion chamber help to prevent liquid Co2 to get inside the marker, which could be very bad. It gives more spaces to Co2 to expand.

8. There's not a big difference between woodsball markers and speedball markers. However, when playing in woods, you want a darker marker, without shiny parts on it, and you want it to be thoughter to water, mud, etc. In speedball, faster marker can give an advantage, so you'll need a marker with an e-grip and e-hopper, which are more easy to break with water and mud. Choose wisely depending on the style you'll play. You can look at spyder VS1 : it is an electronic marker, but really reliable, and can be found in dark color. It is a nice choice for both situation.

A long question need a long answer, so I hope this help. Play safe, and have fun.

[bigtex212]

I haven't played in 9 years and sold all my old equipment. I just bought:
Spyder MR-1
VL 200 rd hopper
20 oz CO2 tank
I'm planning on playing for my college team next year but i gotta practice first.
Is what i got okay for a newbie or someone who has not played in about a decade?

[BoBsMiTh]

Originally Posted by Weever

1. The halo is an electro-hopper with a great reputation. It is very fast and reliable, which make it a good choice when considering to buy a new Hopper....

...A long question need a long answer, so I hope this help. Play safe, and have fun.

Originally Posted by Uphoria

1. It's an electronic hopper which feeds balls into your gun faster....

...7. expansion chambers allow CO2 more time to expand thus making it more consistent. However with the price of getting and xpansion chamber and C02 you might as well just get a steel HPA tank.

Thank you both for your input and taking the time to answer such a long question, it helped out a lot.

[BoBsMiTh]

I haven't seen any reviews (check the Marker Review Forum) or anyone commenting on the Spyder MR1, nor was it one of the noob markers given on this thread? Is the reason because it is not a good marker or was it just over looked? I was looking at one for $180cdn?

[Weever]

Originally Posted by bigtex212

I haven't played in 9 years and sold all my old equipment. I just bought:
Spyder MR-1
VL 200 rd hopper
20 oz CO2 tank
I'm planning on playing for my college team next year but i gotta practice first.
Is what i got okay for a newbie or someone who has not played in about a decade?

No you don't need anything more to play. Just be sure to play safe (hope you got a mask ) and have fun.

I haven't seen any reviews (check the Marker Review Forum) or anyone commenting on the Spyder MR1, nor was it one of the noob markers given on this thread? Is the reason because it is not a good marker or was it just over looked? I was looking at one for $180cdn?

180 $ CDN is way too much for this marker. Keep in mind that it is mechanical, no electronic, no eyes. It is sold at 110 $ at canadianpaintball.com CanadianPaintball.com Kingman Markers . It is a much better deal. Be sure to send them a mail before order, to verify if they have it in stock, but this shouldn't be an issue.

[BoBsMiTh]

Originally Posted by Weever

No you don't need anything more to play. Just be sure to play safe (hope you got a mask ) and have fun.
180 $ CDN is way too much for this marker. Keep in mind that it is mechanical, no electronic, no eyes. It is sold at 110 $ at canadianpaintball.com CanadianPaintball.com Kingman Markers . It is a much better deal. Be sure to send them a mail before order, to verify if they have it in stock, but this shouldn't be an issue.

Thank you for the heads up, I've gone back and forth with the Kingman 98 custom pro, A5, MR1, VS1, and VS2 for awhile now and i think i have decided on the VS1 as my first marker!

I have another question to ask of you guys. When they are listing features of a marker and they talk about "drop forward" what are they referring to?

Thanks to everyone, this thread and forum have been a BIG help to this noob!
Cheers!

[Weever]

This is a drop forward. It allow the tank to sit more forward, rebalancing the marker. It's all about preference. They were pretty popular 4-5 years ago, but now people don't use them because it's making a higher profile.

This should not be an issue if the marker doesn't have one.

[BoBsMiTh]

Originally Posted by Weever

This is a drop forward. It allow the tank to sit more forward, rebalancing the marker. It's all about preference. They were pretty popular 4-5 years ago, but now people don't use them because it's making a higher profile.

This should not be an issue if the marker doesn't have one.

Thank you very much for that answer. I think I have found my first set up. It is Kingman VS1 Package - 20oz Bottle - Basic Mask - Basic Hopper - Squeegee - & Barrel Condom for $200 CDN all in.

The only questions I have are:
1) You are giving an option on a mask the Basic add $0, Profiler add $40, E-Vent add $60, and Grill add $70. Should I just go with a basic mask?

2) Barrel - Stock add $0, SP Liner 14" add $30, Sp Liner 16" add $30, JJ Ceramic 14" add $50, and JJ Ceramic 16" add $50

3) They also give you an option on a hopper but I think I'm going to stick with the basic and spend the $ on a mask and or barrel if you guys think its worth it. From what I read it seems like those are the important ones for beginners. I will list the options just incase you guys want to correct me. Basic hopper add $0, Fasta LED add $64, and Fasta LCD add $74.

Hope to get some guys feed back on this since it has been such a huge help in steering me in the right direction of this sport so far.

Stupid Question I'm playing for the first time on Wed. what should I wear?

Thank you in advance!!!!

[Weever]

1 - go with the profiler. This one will be much more confy and will never ever fog.
2- Stick with the stock barrel. Anyway you'll use Co2, which is less constant than HPA and decrease precision. The stock barrel is just OK.
3- I'd go with the fasta LED, but only if you have the money. It is a nice hopper and this will do the job. However, think that you'll need money to buy some paint, so if you only play woods for now, stick with the gravity hopper for now, and save for later.

Also check in my sig : there's alot information about the VS1 (i own one).

[BoBsMiTh]

Originally Posted by Weever

1 - go with the profiler. This one will be much more confy and will never ever fog.
2- Stick with the stock barrel. Anyway you'll use Co2, which is less constant than HPA and decrease precision. The stock barrel is just OK.
3- I'd go with the fasta LED, but only if you have the money. It is a nice hopper and this will do the job. However, think that you'll need money to buy some paint, so if you only play woods for now, stick with the gravity hopper for now, and save for later.

Also check in my sig : there's alot information about the VS1 (i own one).

Actually i read your review of the VS1, its what sold me on it! Really stick with the Stock Barrel? Ok. Reading your review is what made me want to get a barrel for it. If you think it will be ok then im good with that.

What would you suggest someone wearing on to play? It's going to be my first time out on wed.

[Crawdaddy]

That basic hopper is just a gravity feed aka "shake and bake" you will eventually want a better hopper but for now spend the money on a better mask. A cheap mask will fog and no matter how much your marker and gear is worth if you can't see you can't play.

Something else you might want to consider is a decent pack to carry some more paint on the field. A lot of newer players don't think they will shoot more than a hopper a game and then when they find that they do they try stuffing extra pods in their pockets this is a bad idea that will usually end with the pod getting lost or dumping out on the field.

As for what to wear you want light loose fitting clothing and nothing that you don't mind getting ruined. Most paint washes out but not all and if you are playing outdoors (like you should be ) you are going to get dirty. You also want some decent shoes with ankle support or some light boots. If this is your first game resist the urge to wear two or three t-shirts the hits don't sting bad enough to risk the heat stroke.

[BoBsMiTh]

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy

That basic hopper is just a gravity feed aka "shake and bake" you will ...
... or some light boots. If this is your first game resist the urge to wear two or three t-shirts the hits don't sting bad enough to risk the heat stroke.

Thanks for the help! There is an option for $30 a 2+2+1 pack with 4 pods, not 100% on what they mean by 2+2+1 but i think i get the just.