[paintindayard]

Hey guys,
i just got a new 98C and i am totally psyched! I have a 14" Tippmann Werks barrel too. I have had it for a month or two, and have mostly used it for a speedball version of woodsball. My question: Is the RT and x-chamber worth it or should i cash out and get different gun?
tanks a ton

[big_balla]

That would be a good way to go.

[Cockerkid63]

Get a different gun.

[SnackPack]

I wouldn't suggest upgrading your tippmann TOO much. A barrel will be fine and thats it. When you get better or want to get into local tournaments, then just buy a totally new and better gun.

[paintindayard]

i am starting to play with the idea of tournaments. What kind of gun can i get for a reasonable price? I don't mind selling the tippy. However, for practice purposes until then, i need to be able to use CO2. I don't know to much, but i have seen that some guns can run off CO2 or Nitrogen. would it be bad to flip flop back and forth?

[Cockerkid63]

You can't use co2 on any mid/highend gun without ruining it. Just keep your tippmann then untill money permits you to upgrade. It's bad to flipflop if you have a mid/highend gun, but not if you have a tippy/spyder/blowback/pmi/anything of that sort. Co2 is actually bad for anything.

[paintindayard]

Sorry, but should i get a good co2 gun or just upgrade my tippy? upgrading seems awfully expensive...a lot of guns come with expansion chambers already. And what trigs are tourney legal...

[paintindayard]

I'd like to add that i have a huge love of the game. I want to be able to practice whenever i want and play whenever i want, and it is SO much easier to get CO2 than nitrogen. I can afford an ion or B2K4, but i wouldn't be able to play whenever, unless Nitrogen gets 3,000 shots per fill and doesn't leak. So i guess that money does permit me to buy a better marker, but I LOVE PLAYING TOO MUCH TOO WAIT TO FILL N2!!!

[Meekajahama]

if u have to use co2 a wrath would b the way to go
and a hpa 48/3k will get u sumwhere around maybe 1k shots depending on the gun

[paintindayard]

sooooooooo...could i use CO2 on this gun till n2 or hpa became easily available? I just did a quick check, and it looks pretty good for me.

[PoisonMushroom]

Here's what you do:

Keep what you have for a little while.
Save up for a 68ci/4500 High Pressure HPA tank.
Use the tank on your Tippy.
Save up for a new gun such as an Ion.
Buy the ion and a good hopper (12volt revvy is good).
Have fun.

Don't buy too much stuff for your Tippy. I did that and really regret it.

[paintindayard]

will HPA work on a tippy w/o a low pressure chamber? and where do they get filled? any hardware stores or just fields? and will nitrogen work on HPA guns in hpa tanks? like i said, i'ma n00b and i need all the help i can get.

[necrotomic]

u can get nitrogen tanks in high and low perssure. hpr is around 800psi output and low pressure is around 300-500 dpends on what kind. yes u can use a hp tank on a tippmann. the filled i ref at uses nitrogen on there rental tippmanns cuz it just over all preforms better.

[paintindayard]

So i can buy a HP tank right now and just hook it up to the 98 custom. When i upgrade the gun, i can use the SAME tank for nitrogen? Is that right?
BTW, i really like the wrath's looks, gonna compare the interior w/da ion

[SnackPack]

Yes, an HP tank will work fine with your tippmann.

[paintindayard]

Sweet.
I am thinking of getting a wrath with CO2 or a/s CO2. Apparently, it uses some of the same internals that allow the electro Spyders to run off raw (not a/s) CO2. Whaddya think?

[Dogpatch]

You'll want a nitrogen tank no matter what. BTW... HPA, n2 and nitrogen... all the same thing.
Check here for all the things you can do to a Tippman. If you're just gonna play woodsball, it's really all the gun you need. IMHO.

[paintindayard]

I know, but it is very hard to consistently get N2/HPA tanks filled (thanks for the clarification). I have two very distinct questions, give them distinct answers PLEASE!
1) Is it fine to run the Wrath off normal CO2 and a/s CO2?
2) Do you know anyone who fills HPA other than pb fields? Does Dick's or Lowe's or Home Depot?

Also, i am not only gonna play woodsball. It is just the most convenient at the time. I plan on playing plenty of speedball.

[Dogpatch]

Ok.
1) You don't want to run any electronic gun on co2 if possible. If you use anti syphon it's not as bad, but ya still wouldn't want to.
2) I have heard fire stations can fill nitrogen, any diver supply store should be able to.

[paintindayard]

yeah, i was just looking at that. I saw that scuba tanks are good to use for that, if i could find an inexpensive one, i would be set. Do you know how much fire/dive stores charge for a fill (per 1000 psi?)