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January 2nd, 04:22 PM
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bought a used gun as my first gun. confused
ive played paintball a few times, but always just used a friends gun. so i just bought my first, but i bought a used one. i dont really know what to do with some of these extra peices and have no clue at all how to take care of my gun (oil, work on(bolt, etc)).
can anyone tell me what im working with here? i know i got an o-ring there, but not positive about it. do i just put it on my tank when i screw it on everytime? also, is this extra bolt good? cant tell if its an upgrade or what
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January 2nd, 04:29 PM
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Screaming Koala
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The white thing is a cup seal. It's a spare unless you really got into taking it apart.
The twisted pin thing might be spare, probably not. Its used with another much larger, but straight, pin to hold the internals in.
The two washers...are from somewhere...
The bolt might be stock. Is there another one already in the gun or did you take it out for the picture?
Almost all spyders are the same. You can go to Kingman's website and get a manual for any of the mechanical (semi auto) markers and use it for general reference.
Also check out the Stacked Tube Blow Back (Spyder) section. There's plenty of information in there about your gun.
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January 2nd, 04:33 PM
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ok, cool. so i shouldnt really concern myself with most of that stuff.
the bolt i believe is just spare. i didnt take it out. i guess theres still one in the gun, but i am still so new that i wouldnt know what im looking for on the gun. the gun looks intact to me
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January 2nd, 04:46 PM
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If the bolt was missing you'd be able to see straight through the top tube.
The red O-ring is most likely a spare also. Tanks have their own already on them. Same size, but usually a harder material to keep them from breaking. Those red ones are soft and normally for internal parts.
Again, best thing I can recommend is checking out a manual that matches your gun as closely as possible, and reading up on some Spyder threads.
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January 2nd, 04:48 PM
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the red o-ring there is an extra o-ring fro teh Striker (the big black thing that come out with the bolt)
The ridgid washer goes ont eh screws that hold the frame on.
To lube it, pull teh bolt out, and the striker will come out with it. Lube any o-rings you see(FYI, if thre's no o-rings on the bolt, it doesnt' need ot be lubed)
After you lube it all up, (a few drops on each o-ring) slide it back in, (pull the trigger a few times while pushing the bolt in) and you're all set to go play
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January 2nd, 04:59 PM
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awesome. thanks guys. im gonna try to get a manual to figure out the rest
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January 2nd, 05:29 PM
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Most of the things I can help you out with as I had a spyder last season and took it into pieces billions of times. My bolt once jammed during a game. Taking it apart and putting it back together within a minute is quite a trick. The more you take pieces out of the you will see where everything goes and its not to work on a spyder.
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January 2nd, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strikr
Most of the things I can help you out with as I had a spyder last season and took it into pieces billions of times. My bolt once jammed during a game. Taking it apart and putting it back together within a minute is quite a trick. The more you take pieces out of the you will see where everything goes and its not to work on a spyder.
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oh, cool man. can you tell if this is the stock bolt?
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January 2nd, 06:30 PM
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oh, cool man. can you tell if this is the stock bolt?
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Yeah, it is the stock bolt. I just havn't seen them blue before.
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January 2nd, 06:40 PM
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my bad, meant to post this before. this is the extra one.
i looked at the diagram of the gun and im still kinda confused how id get the bolt out. im gonna ask a friend about lubing it. but could someone walk me through the bolt part?
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January 2nd, 07:09 PM
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once you get the pin out that sticks through the side of the gun in back between the 2 tubes, the bolt should just pull right out along with the hammer which will come out of the bottom tube. then drop a dab of oil on there, smear it around, and you're pretty much good to go with lubing it up.
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January 2nd, 11:48 PM
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that plastic piece with the two screws in it is a feedneck that connects your hopper ( the thing that feeds paint into your gun ) to the actual marker. so be sure to keep that and i'd buy a spare one of those if you got some spare money, they crack somewhat easily and sometimes can cause problems if they crack and or fall off.
Cup seal ( definitly keep, incase that breaks it always good to have another one of those around ) the pin which is often lost after much use to keep your internals in. O-rings (your gonna use lots of those when you start wearing them down in a few months ) and a spare bolt is good so you got a nice setup going there !!!
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January 3rd, 10:04 AM
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man, you guys are a great help.
so, when i try to take out the bolt, im not gonna have to worry about springs or any major internals right?
also, should i lube the c02 tank before putting it on the gun everytime?
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January 3rd, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spyderflip
man, you guys are a great help.
so, when i try to take out the bolt, im not gonna have to worry about springs or any major internals right?
also, should i lube the c02 tank before putting it on the gun everytime?
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Once you pull the back pin out,stuff might pop out quick, be careful not to loose the spring, rubber bumper, and the plastic shim (it looks like a plastic nail if you use your imagination)
So long as you put them back in the way they came out everything will be just peachy.
There's no need to lube your co2 o-ring
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January 3rd, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spyderflip
man, you guys are a great help.
so, when i try to take out the bolt, im not gonna have to worry about springs or any major internals right?
also, should i lube the c02 tank before putting it on the gun everytime?
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It could make your O-rings last alot longer even tho I was too lazy to ever do it. Just lube it when you go play. Like the morning then the next time.
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January 3rd, 06:00 PM
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the steel rectangular shaped piece might be thing thing you put in the hole that holds the bolt in place so it doesnt fall out. that bolt is located where you cock the gun and there is a bolt there. You will see the cocking thing rest on the bolt kind of.
not sure though
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