[pbfreak9865]

hey guys check out this gun.... how good is this deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1890&rd=1&rd=1

[paintballkid320]

its an origninal 05 proto matrix which go on pbn for really cheap, and since that would be your first gun i wouldnt reccomend it, i would recomend u start off with a a spyder like the new vs2 (not the vs3 cause you wouldnt be able to do tourny's)

[pbfreak9865]

Originally Posted by txaggie08

VS3 is an extremely overpriced version of a spyder. If you want to spend that on a STBB gun, get an imagine, convert it to lp, and put in a t-board. Yould come out with a superior gun.

soooo... what does this mean?

[paintballkid320]

the vs3 is overpriced but i think the vs2 is at a fair price but if you want to save some money for gear then yes get an imagine

[txaggie08]

Originally Posted by pbfreak9865

soooo... what does this mean?

The spyder is what's called a stacked tube Blowback (stbb) marker.

What I was saying, and guess i didnt articulate well enough, Was that FOR THE MONEY, you could build a Low pressure gun, with a t-board(aftermarket spyder board) that would give you ramping and the ability to have decent eyes, from a simple imagine.

You could give me the same amount of $$ to build a gun that you would spend on a VS3, and I could come up wiht a superior gun(would take me a little research, but shopping around I thnk it could be done....someone want to challenge me(you give me the $ of course))

[pbfreak9865]

could you find me a website that sold everythng i would need?

[pbfreak9865]

and also are you saying that you could build me the gun? if so i dont think my mom would be ok with just giving u the money (cuz u know u could just take it and we would never know)but if she was would u charge me anything for your labor of building it?

[pbfreak9865]

o and i forgot y would it be better?

[shiky]

buddy slow down on the multiposting. theres an edit button for a reason. He was speaking hypothetically. hes not really going to build you a gun, hes just saying how crappy the vs3 is. you could buy a whole bunch of parts and put it all together for less money than the vs3 and it would probably perform better.

[txaggie08]

I was just pickin at ya mate. I was making an example, and having a laugh about it. Shiky is exactly right, that was all I was saying.

The proto matrices, and the pmr your talking about would be a far superior gun to ANY spyder i could build,or you could build/buy. My advice still stands, the rail, prot matrix, or ion are WAY better choices than a spyder.

An ion fits exactly into your original budget, and you could get everything you need, plus a considerable amount of upgrades for it. The PMR new is going to be right at the max end of your total budget for just the gun. I would suggest getting a little more money(about 4-500 for the gun alone) and getting a used gun like a pm, e-mag, e-cocker, angel, shocker....You name it, you can probably get a slightly older version of it in that price range right now.


BTW, you need to use the "edit" button next to "quote" if you forget something. Multiposting makes it hard for me(i say me, this goes for everyone else as well, not trying to be arrogant) to answer all your questions quickly. If you continue to do it, the moderators are going to get tired of what they will see as spam, and are eventualy going to warn/ban you. Just a friendly bit of advice, im not griping .