[bman427]

I was looking and found the ephiphany, it say it like the ION, but with upgrades. Just asking is it a good marker

[paintballkid320]

well the ion is a performs great for its cost
and all the epiphany is, is an ion with the freak barrel, on/off, and a new body kit
so for 400$ i do not think the epiphany is all that great

you should look at the rail or mini imo

[shiky]

and on top of it, the epiphany is mad ugly, and very very heavy. i think its almost as heavy if not heavier than my nerve. yuck.

[the_real_kaz]

For the price, the ephiphany is not a good buy. The PMR and Mini will both out preform and are lighter than it. You would be better off buying an Ion for $200 less and speanding the extra $ on upgrades for it.

But if your looking in the $400ish price range the best guns out there are the Proto Rail (PMR) and the Invert Mini. Or of course something used, but that can be a gamble sometimes.

[shiky]

i would go with the rail. i've already heard horror stories about the mini, but my best friend shoots a rail and its awesome. throw another 200 dollars into an UL frame, and you have an amazing gun.

[kenny_1491]

Originally Posted by shiky

i would go with the rail. i've already heard horror stories about the mini, but my best friend shoots a rail and its awesome. throw another 200 dollars into an UL frame, and you have an amazing gun.

QFT, the mini is crap right now, wait till the second gen. ones or just get a rail

[bman427]

How about shocker or invert

[kenny_1491]

the invert is the mini as far s I know, a shocker is perty good, especially the nxt shockers.

[shiky]

Originally Posted by kenny_1491

the invert is the mini as far s I know, a shocker is perty good, especially the nxt shockers.

yes the only gun by invert paintball is the mini. it is a POS right now. shockers are absolute secks. get one.

[kenny_1491]

Originally Posted by shiky

yes the only gun by invert paintball is the mini. it is a POS right now. shockers are absolute secks. get one.

I thought so but who knows they coulda been a gun whore and made another gun just like the mini but with different milling like kingman.

[eFFect_wannabe]

Defiant 2's can be found for 400 bucks, and when tuned properly, they're pretty decent.

[the_real_kaz]

Originally Posted by shiky

i would go with the rail. i've already heard horror stories about the mini, but my best friend shoots a rail and its awesome. throw another 200 dollars into an UL frame, and you have an amazing gun.

You'd be better off buying a pm6 than. The PMR's biggest stregth is it's price. Putting a UL frame on it dosn't make a ton of sense.

[shiky]

yea but if you do put the ul frame, its basically a pm6 for 100 less.

[the_real_kaz]

It still woun't be as consistant. And you still have the sucky feedneck and cap. I think a $25 metal trigger is the way to go.

[shiky]

eh, six to one, half a dozen to another.. personally i'd save up and just get an ego 07.