[Syxx676]

Well, I'm very new to paintball (although I'm 22), and definately don't need anything that great... I usually just paintball with just a bunch of friends... and they don't have anything too fancy either.
We are usually playing in the woods, or around a bunch of dirt hills and bike ramps. Although we have talked about going to a few local places to actually play some speedball or woodsball.

Anyways, this is what I've found...
eBay: NEW Spyder PILOT ACS Paintball Gun Marker COMBO SET R (item 130102706825 end time Apr-25-07 18:44:20 PDT)

ebay is the main place I've been looking, but I also live 5 minutes away from this place: General Merchandise - Paintball, Knives, Swords, & Army Surplus Store - www.generalsway.com
so if you have any better suggestions or ideas, please let me know!

[andyminION]

i think that the best starter gun is the tippman 98 custom and it is also good for woodsball.
There are deals on ebay now where tippmans are like at 40-50$ and some are in great condition
for your little spyder kit tho.......
i have a friend who has that gun.
SUCKS
not very good for woodsball either.
a lot of his shots go from side to side and too high up or hit ground 5 feet in front of target. Need i continue?
anyway the tippman is a very good marker at a cheap cost
you can also get good kits for it to make it awesome in the future

[andyminION]

also a good gun is mr2 but even if u dont hav the money to get it the one is pretty good too.

[Syxx676]

hm... how rapid can they fire though, i've noticed the 98 custom only has the single trigger? does that matter?

[andyminION]

yes it does but if you are looking to fire faster u shouldnt get that spyder. from my experiences you would be lucky to get it fired lol
what is your exact budget?
i can work from there

[Syxx676]

well, the spyder was just something that i noticed that looked good and came with a kit, which is also good for me... but i can always buy the mask n stuff seperate...

since i'm not quite sure how long this phase will last me, i'm not sure how much i want to spend. money really isn't a problem, but i probably don't want to spend more than $200 on a gun... possibly much less (since it's just the gun)

[andyminION]

well that helps a lot
if you are willing buy the vs2
next best thing to ion price
it is about 180 new
it is a very good marker
here is a site about it.
http://www.anythingxtreme.com/Spyder...7143C1381.aspx

check out the stats on more info button

[metallica256]

i dont no, the pilot acs is actually an ok starter gun, my friend has one and it works fine and he bought the gun alone for $200 cdn

[Syxx676]

yea, the ion might be a little too 'professional' for me, and pricey for what i need... i'm interested in the vs2 though. maybe i'll wait for some more opinions, but thanks. any thoughts on accuracy and ddistance at a decent rate of fire? those are probably the most important for me...

[metallica256]

well my friends pilot is fairly accurate and their RATED at 20 bps

[Syxx676]

hey thanks for the help... i've been getting some other help as well, and i'm looking at these tippmans currently.
eBay: Tippmann Custom Pro ACT Paintball Marker Camo Combo Set (item 130106129525 end time May-25-07 14:47:35 PDT)

i'm not sure if i would want the double trigger until i feel i wanted to upgrade it, but yea, i know nothing (wouldn't it also need a faster firing system or something).

[Syxx676]

ah nevermind, i actually see that the other camo tippman i was looking at had a much wider feeding system...

[Syxx676]

how about this deal...
eBay: TIPPMANN CUSTOM PRO CAMO PAINTBALL MARKER PACKAGE (item 150115727898 end time Apr-26-07 19:06:21 PDT)

[txaggie08]

I would look more towards a spyder VS2 than a tippman personally. MOST people evolve out of the woodsball phase and become interested mainly in speedball. That tends to render the tippman pretty much useless. on the other hand, the VS2 will work well for either.

[Syxx676]

won't the tippman ever be customizable for a faster firing system if i ever decide?

[Syxx676]

i don't think i would get the spyder vs2... i think i would just spend the extra cash for an ion, but i'm not sure...

[txaggie08]

The VS2 is a better value than the ion. See the argument about VS2vs ion in gun review...

[Syxx676]

thanks for the info! 1 more question... i am reading about the VS2... "This marker requires compressed air. CO2 will NOT work on this marker"

i'm not even sure what my friends use, or where they get filled at... but that could be a problem maybe? if they only get CO2.

[metallica256]

the ion is only hpa (high compressed air)

[txaggie08]

The VS2 will work on CO2 perfectly well.