[ptjo]

hello i am just starting up paintball again and looking into getting a angel mt force 4 fly and i wanted to know the opinions of this marker. I do not really know the paintball lingos so your going to have to explain lol..... and what is a normal going price for a used angel mt for 4 fly. thank you

[TheAznInvazn]

I have no idea what mt force is supposed to be, but a friend of mine has an Angel Speed 04 and it's pretty damn nice

[bobide]

^^Azn, the MT Force fly is based off the A4 Fly platform and was a run of markers that the Master Techs tinkered with to coax even more performance out of. They went for $1500+ and would be considered like the Sl8r of their time.

Good guns. I would not be surprised to see them floating around for $400 or so maybe even less. You might have some difficulty finding one up for sale as most of the owners are likely keeping it as a collectible. I'm curious why you are set on this gun? It certainly was one of the best guns in its time, however in the last few years companies have put out cheaper guns with a very high level of performance.

[TheAznInvazn]

Ooo, learn something new every trip to the forums >.<

[ptjo]

well i dont really know what other gun to get except for the egos (expensive) and shockers. im just looking into getting a used gun..... if others have opinions on what a better gun is then please tell me thank you............ o ya the a1 flys look pretty nice as well

[TheAznInvazn]

Used Epiphany's that are already upgraded if you wanna go super cheap, and thing like DM5 and 6's and PM6 and 7's are always nice

[bobide]

You could find a used g7 fly fairly cheap and easily (it is the platform before the A1) other good options are any of the matrixs from dye and egos are also impressive.

[ptjo]

so im pushing more to the angel mt force 4 fly right now...... its in my price range and havent really seen or heard anything about them... if u think other whys it would be good to know

[bobide]

A used g7 fly would be easier to find and "better" then the MT force 4 fly.

[ptjo]

whats your opinion on the new 08 shocker nxt???

[TheAznInvazn]

Only good if you get a NDZ adjustable bolt guide

[toXic]

I support the G7 Fly movement. It will be better than the force fly, and a decent amount of people say they are better than A1's.

[Trbo323]

depends on how much your looking to spend but i picked up my dm6 for 600 and i know the price has dropped since then, i know the pm6 is going for way cheap and iv seen some decent prices on the pm7. never been a fan of the shocker, i hear they are gas hogs and honestly, there are better markers out there for the money

fist thing is first though, go talk to your local shop and see what they cary parts for, there is no point in buying a marker you cant get fixed at your local shop or who doesnt cary parts

[kenny_1491]

A pm7/ul'd pm6 can be had for really freakin cheap, I'd go that route.