[Unit91]

I have read most of the new player post on this forum and would like to say thanks for the advice! I think I have narrowed it down to two markers and was looking for some opinions. I am buying all new gear for the first time.

Is there a major difference between the A-5 and the Project Salvo? Im looking at both and I cant decide.

· Tippmann US ARMY Project Salvo Marker

· Egrip

· Coil Remote

· Cyclone feed and low pro hopper

· GXG 4+1 Pack with Tank & Pod Holders

· 4 GXG 140 Round Pods (in stock color will ship)

· GXG XVSN Mask With Thermo Cured Anti-Fog Lens

· Guerrilla Air 20 Ounce Co2 Tank

· 200 Round Tacamo Speed Arc Hopper

· Tippmann Barrel Sleeve

· Manual

· Tippmann Squeegee

· Tippmann Basic Tools

· Full Warranty From Tippmann

Tippmann g*n Oil Tube

Price: $315

There is also an A-5 with the same mods for $365, Which is the best deal? Any help would be greatly appreciated

[Unit91]

I will be playing woodsball only so keep that in mind also

[huckduck]

the project salvo will be heavier. the a5 will be restricted only to using the cyclone hopper.

the e grip really is an unneeded piece of equipment on those markers.

read this -> The ultimate new player guide to markers, masks tanks and more!!!

[tlmiller]

WOW, that's overpriced.

[martix_agent]

yea, that's quite expensive for all the garbage things you'll be getting with it.

[pballcj14]

Go with the project salvo. That's just my woodsballer opinion....

[dprimmy]

If memory suits - the mechanism that causes both markers to function is nearly identical.

No item listed in either of those packages (less the harness and pods...which are more preference oriented than anything for comfort) are forward-moving, should you decide to move to the mid-range of markers.


Proto Axis thermal mask $60
Spyder Fenix marker $150
20oz CO2 $20
Proto Primo or Spyder Fasta/Halo B hopper. $65-80

Using lower of costs - $295


While you're not getting harnesses, tanks, packaged deals and assorted crap - you also won't be running out immediately to replace items that are sub-standard or ineffective.

Trust me when I say this - only buy the gear you will be using ONCE. I've been playing nearly ten years and have fallen into the pit that you're dangling above. Buying low cost items in hope that they're better than what I have...just to replace them so they're compatible with my next marker. I sincerely wish I would have bought a viable HPA tank and good Hopper right from the beginning.

If you buy the Tippmann (either)... your barrel threads and hopper are specific to the markers you're playing with. The only thing that CAN move forward is the CO2 tank, and even that really becomes obsolete the moment you move into the mid-range.



TL;DR - the package you're looking into includes a lot of quickly replaceable crap. Buy good stuff, the first time and be satisfied with your purchase...not financially diving into trying to polish or repair a clunker car.

[turbo109478]

ust because your playing woodsball does not mean you have to use a tippman remember that, you could dress up like a giant duck and run around with an purple poka dotted mini. you can use anything you wish but if your mind is set on being rambo in the woods then not much anyone can say to stop you. go with what you feel is best asking for advice is great but it is our opinions only. IMO that package is completely overpriced and all it will do exspecially with the co2 is give you a big headache. my advice is get a good mask first and foremost do not skimp or budget ball your way out of a good mask find one that fits comfortable and will not fog, profilers are great and i recommend them above all others. next get yourself a good hopper, loader w/e. invert too is a great choice the spyder fasta is also a great choice is you cant afford a rotor. next is the HPA tank, not co2, co2 will ruin your marker or future marker. if you really dont want a 4500psi i highly recommend them above 3000psi but its your choice. take dprimmy's advice too and dont skimp on things you will just regret it later on. i think the only member still that has me beat on years of playing is tlmiller, 15 years here. keep them questions coming.

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by turbo109478

next is the HPA tank, not co2, co2 will ruin your marker or future marker.

not true at all, with the right modifications any marker can be run safely on CO2 but more importantly the tanks are much cheaper and fills are typically easier to come by than HPA which is great for a new player

is HPA better? Yes, no doubt. will co2 ruin an entry level marker? no. will co2 ruin a mid or high end marker? quite possibly but depends on the circumstances.

CO2 is not this evil gas that it sometimes gets portrayed as. it is great for a new player on a budget

[turbo109478]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

not true at all, with the right modifications any marker can be run safely on CO2 but more importantly the tanks are much cheaper and fills are typically easier to come by than HPA which is great for a new player

is HPA better? Yes, no doubt. will co2 ruin an entry level marker? no. will co2 ruin a mid or high end marker? quite possibly but depends on the circumstances.

CO2 is not this evil gas that it sometimes gets portrayed as. it is great for a new player on a budget

i remember when you completely were opposite on the co2 lol. i understand its a cheaper air source for new players and with the right mods like remote line or anti syphon in the bottle it couldnt hurt, better than propane but i still recommend getting hpa helps in the long run rather the short run.

[tlmiller]

Yes, HPA is far and away a superior propellant. But for cheap and easy, co2 does have it's place.

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by turbo109478

i remember when you completely were opposite on the co2 lol. i understand its a cheaper air source for new players and with the right mods like remote line or anti syphon in the bottle it couldnt hurt, better than propane but i still recommend getting hpa helps in the long run rather the short run.

when was that? because that is news to me, iv always said yes HPA is better but that doesnt mean CO2 is bad by any means (at least on its own, there are circumstances where co2 being used for a specific application would be a bad idea, ie: getting 30bps out of your brand new DM13 with no modifications)

if you can afford it ya HPA all the way but new player getting into the sport that is rarely the case

[turbo109478]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

when was that? because that is news to me, iv always said yes HPA is better but that doesnt mean CO2 is bad by any means (at least on its own, there are circumstances where co2 being used for a specific application would be a bad idea, ie: getting 30bps out of your brand new DM13 with no modifications)

if you can afford it ya HPA all the way but new player getting into the sport that is rarely the case

probably about a year or two ago

[Trbo323]

please quote, i dont remember

[martix_agent]

Int eh long run, it's actually cheaper to use HPA. Most fields charge to fill a co2 tank, but include HPA fills with your entry fee. Also, a lot fo fields are completely ignoring co2 tanks because it's a haste for them to fill tanks and order more.

[turbo109478]

i am not going to go back through and trying to find it trbo just agree to disagree not worth the effort of rekindling old memories but i do believe you said once that hpa in the long run is a better choice

[kyhillbilly]

I may be late to this discussion but I would get an SP1 off Ansgear.com before I would get a tippman. I own a tippman 98 custom and a BT combat and they are great for loaners to let buddies use because they are reliable and durable but you can get something that shoots alot better for the money.

[huckduck]

Originally Posted by turbo109478

i am not going to go back through and trying to find it trbo just agree to disagree not worth the effort of rekindling old memories but i do believe you said once that hpa in the long run is a better choice

HPA in any run is the better choice. every one here has maintained that, maybe except for craw

[Crawdaddy]

Originally Posted by huckduck

HPA in any run is the better choice. every one here has maintained that, maybe except for craw

Damn straight! For many players CO2 is just fine especially if it is just playing around with your friends in the back 40 somewhere. I use it all year long and if you understand what it can't do and what it can do it has a few advantages over HPA.

[kyhillbilly]

For what its worth its harder to get CO2 where I am. The field usually play on only has HPA.