[huckduck]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

alright here is my input on this

and i have one question

if you are new, how on earth do you have a sponsor already?

well duh... the team(s) he's joining

[tlmiller]

Originally Posted by martix_agent

This is perhaps one of the best representations of a night game that can ever be made.

Agreed. Night games are cool for a few minutes, but they really quickly gets old.

[snowboarder599]

And the moment someone turns on their light, game over.

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by huckduck

well duh... the team(s) he's joining

ya i got that part but who sponsors brand new to the game players?

not to mention most sponcorships do not allow you to choose your own gear

but then again....it is a milsim team

[Pro_paintball]

Yea i am not even sponsored and i have 15 years of experience
I have been sponsored and i have played with some great teams but not currently

[Max07]

I don't understand what everybody says aboou the Empire Mini being ackward and all that, I've had my TM-15 for three years already and never had any weird issue or anything that coudn't be fixed easily by myself.

And there is something that most people in this fourm fail to understand about mil-sim, and is that yes, mil-sim markers most of the time perform worse than its tournament counterparts because of their larger profile and weight, but the thing is that mil-sim markers are out there for those people who like to feel like they are in combat and for them that extra price is worth it. You can call it child's play or whatever you want but thats what makes us mil-simers happy (and I don't really see anything wrong about being a kid in spirit), it sometimes seems like you are against mil-sim when you say you really aren't, but its a big part of what makes paintball today. Without those clients, paintball will be a lot less populal for the combat simulation that mil-sim pretends to give (even though we all know it doesn't do it well) atracts a lot of people, thats why most of the paintballers I know play paintball, even if later thay change to speedball.
I like the fact that you give them the real facts about mil-sim having less performance compared to the standard tournament markerr but sometimes you really give it a hard time trying to convince people to compelteley ignore mil-sim. I've know a lot of people that they see any kind of tournament play as boring because is to fast, to limited, to agressive, etc, etc. and they find the paintball joy in dressing their markets with mil-sim shells.

[huckduck]

nobody here talks smack about milsim (well the educated anyways) we just tend to say "for your money there are other options". but in the end, we still all come to the same conclusion -> doowhachoolyke

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by Max07

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I like the fact that you give them the real facts about mil-sim having less performance compared to the standard tournament markerr but sometimes you really give it a hard time trying to convince people to compelteley ignore mil-sim. I've know a lot of people that they see any kind of tournament play as boring because is to fast, to limited, to agressive, etc, etc..

most of the time the problem is its a brand new player to the sport like here, in which case milsim OR tournament speedball is a bad idea and i will do my best to steer them away from those. too many players today get into the sport thinking the look is everything and then 6 months down the road they realize they are not having fun because they spent $600 and are being out-preformed by the $150 fenix and feel like they will have to spend another $600 to fix that. i have seen it happen time and time again

Originally Posted by Max07

I've had my TM-15 for three years already and never had any weird issue or anything that coudn't be fixed easily by myself

the problem is not that it is hard to fix, the problem is that it does everything ass backwards from the rest of the industry. for instance at least for the mini, because the board is in the front grip and not the grip frame this forced empire to also have a second board just for the eyes and crappy ass hall effects trigger. the regulator is not serviceable by the user, im sorry but why are we going back in time in an age when regulators are a few seals, an adjustment screw and a spring? not to mention, i have torn into one as far as i could go and i still cant figure out how the damn thing works so even if you did have the tools to get into it you have to learn how this one regulator functions just to work on it. the markers all have the custom sized o-rings in a time when the rest of the industry uses standard sizes that you can find almost anywhere. for the love of God WHY? now rather than having one set of o-rings for every marker you own you have to also have a separate one for the mini. empire also decided to use not only a regulator adjustment but also a spring tension to control the poppet, in an age when all other mid range markers are controlled by regulator pressure alone, again i have to ask WHY? granted, its not that difficult to adjust but getting it set up for the best it can be is a lot like timing an autococker, a task that only someone who is suicidal enjoys on a regular basis. between dwell, regulator pressure and spring tension there is a lot to mess up.

i feel like they had all the bits to make a top notch FASOR and then went, you know what, lets turn a FASOR around backwards and then make it a single tube just so we can eliminate the ram even though this will force everything else to be done some retarded way

but hey, it will be small! so that excuses everything right?

[tlmiller]

Although, to be fair, they're not the only ones that have suddenly decided to blow off compatibility. Dye's Hyper3 with the new screws, PE and their T-rail...

[Trbo323]

ya i will agree on those but at least they are only one part on the marker not every single o-ring, the regulator/asa, eyes etc. all packed onto one marker

[Max07]

Maybe it's just me but the TM-15 seems to be kind of easier to service than the Mini now (you know, since it has a larger shell maybe they didn't have to mess with things to much). It never looks to complicated to me when something weird happens but maybe it's just my luck.
Anyways, I don't like that it has custom o-rings so as soon as I can get my hands on something better I will. Since the Empire Vanquish supposely is coming this February I bet that the next TM will come like in August or something.

[Trbo323]

Originally Posted by Max07

Maybe it's just me but the TM-15 seems to be kind of easier to service than the Mini now (you know, since it has a larger shell maybe they didn't have to mess with things to much). It never looks to complicated to me when something weird happens but maybe it's just my luck.

again its not overly complicated(besides the regulator) its just they put a monkey in charge of making the choices that should have been simple

should we use the standard sized o-rings that the whole industry uses and are easy to find everywhere?

AAARRKKKK!!!

oh, the monkey screamed, i think that means "no".

we want to make it a gas through grip which means the regulator will also be the asa, should we make it easy to work on and include a diagram in the manual of how to take it apart and replace any seals?

AAARRKK!!!, AAARRKKK!!!

oh, no on both accounts, ok.

How about the trigger, should we use eyes or a switch since those are the two systems the players everywhere are used to?

AAARRRKKK!!!

[Max07]

Originally Posted by Trbo323

again its not overly complicated(besides the regulator) its just they put a monkey in charge of making the choices that should have been simple

should we use the standard sized o-rings that the whole industry uses and are easy to find everywhere?

AAARRKKKK!!!

oh, the monkey screamed, i think that means "no".

we want to make it a gas through grip which means the regulator will also be the asa, should we make it easy to work on and include a diagram in the manual of how to take it apart and replace any seals?

AAARRKK!!!, AAARRKKK!!!

oh, no on both accounts, ok.

How about the trigger, should we use eyes or a switch since those are the two systems the players everywhere are used to?

AAARRRKKK!!!

I admit I loled

[tlmiller]

does seem a plausible explanation...