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Old June 19th, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Truth about Sniping in Paintball

There are many a new players who come into the sport with the thought in mind that they will become the biggest badass sniper the sport has ever seen, gogging people from hunderds of feet away and being the lone ranger that decides the turn of the battle. Well, Im here to say that as of June 19, 2004, Paintball has yet to have any marker that can do that, nomatter how many upgrades there are on it.

Websters dictionary defines the word snipe as "to shoot at exposed individuals (as of an enemy's forces) from a usually concealed point of vantage" (http://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary). This definition has nothing to do with distance, only with concealed positions, meaning it is possible to "Snipe" someone if you are hidden, and take them out.

Paintballs do not travel reliably over long distances, first off, because they are round and filled with liqued, meaning they are more subject to wind and weather conditions. Second, Paintballs very quickly lose speed and fall to the ground. Even on many speedball courses backplayers lob to reach their targets. A Flatline barrel eliminates the need to lob and does extend the effective rang of the marker (minimally though), but only if installed correctly and properly cared for.

Because of the relative short range of markers, scopes tend to be redundant for Paintball. One of the main disadvantages of a scope is "Tunnel Vision", which is when the person is entirely focused in one direction, leaving him heavily exposed for a flanking. The main reason you do not need a scope is because scopes are for hitting people far away, real far away, farther than a paintball gun can shoot. Many markers are also vertical feed, meaning the hopper is in front of the sight rail so you cant use a scope.

With a flatline the accruacy will be the same as any other barrel adn 150 ft plus, with isnt very good. If you are a new player who is thinking about a flatline so you can snipe people from afar, you must drastically rethink the way you are approaching your choice of barrel. I got my flatline because i was sick of lobbing in the woods only to have my balls break on various foilage that wouldnt be in the way if i had a flat trajectory.

If you knew the limitations and true meaning of "sniping" in paintball and still want to "snipe" as in shoot people within normal effective range from a hidden spot, by all means go ahead, ive seen plenty of games where a single person has held back half the team because they couldnt find him and he was picking them off one by one. Turns out this person was about 30 feet away. That is what sniping in paintball is.

Camoflage is another topic for the "sniper". A good guilly suit will not give the "wookie effect" that you can find on many websites. Personally, i would not use a guilly suit because they tend to be good at only one feild, because the bushes at the other ones are a different color or for similar reasons. I would suggest real-tree camoflaged clothin (available at most Bass-Pro Shops and various army supply stores). I also advise some kind of mask cover that will help hide your mask. Many times the mask is what people recognize most on the feild and in the woods. Ive heard that some people have become so accustomed to standard military comflage, so that they can pick it out from among some bushes or trees.

I made this to help better explain the concept of "sniping" and how it relates to paintball. If you have something to add please do so below.
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Old June 19th, 08:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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good info, I actually read all of it.
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Old June 19th, 10:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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good info...........i think there was another thread on this but i would definatly stickey this
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ya, this deserves a sticky
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Old June 19th, 10:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old June 19th, 11:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think most players who say that they will become the most bad ass sniper who ever played speed/xball are, now don't consider this flaming, but the new players who just don't wanna get shot. I had a friend get shot once in an endurance match and he called himself out. I could tell right then that he didn't like getting shot and that's why he wanted to be a sniper. But truth is in xball how in the hell u gonna snipe someone if you are getting pinned down by a 20+bps marker?
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Old June 19th, 11:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old June 19th, 11:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old June 19th, 11:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Do you recommend reading it?


Is it the exact same thing as D_Smalls' version? I read that...
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Old June 19th, 12:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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^^^ Up there someone mentioned they thought people wanted to be snipers because they were afraid of getting hit. I totally agree. On one hand, you can run up and bunker someone and possibly get hit in the process, or you can stay 3000 yards away and snipe people's gogs(sarcasm) I like to be up in the action, cause I'm used to being hit. But I really think all these leet snipers just like to be snipers because they "get lots of kills without danger" just like in many FPS games
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Old June 19th, 01:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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fortunately i think most new players realize that "sniping" is silly after their first time out.
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Old June 19th, 01:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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"after" being key word there. I think D_Smalls had the old sniper sticky but it got deleted
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Old June 19th, 04:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i didnt read any of it... mainly because you dont need snipers, and the flatline barrel cant do anything right, not to offend anyone but snipers ARE useless.
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Old June 20th, 12:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i didnt read any of it... mainly because you dont need snipers, and the flatline barrel cant do anything right, not to offend anyone but snipers ARE useless.
IMO, You should'v read it b4 posting
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Camo is very useful though. Ive been in 2 or 3 games where it has helped considerably. Now its not useful up close, but when the other team is in a bunker and you are creeping up on the side through the bushes, they generally will concentrate fire forward because they cant see you so you can get around behind and bunker them.
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IMO, You should'v read it b4 posting
wouldnt waste my time
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I've always considered big floppy Ghilli suits as a "grey area" form of cheating. How are you supposed to get any breaks when there's 6 inches of loose padding all over the enemies body? Even worse is that if the ghilli suited player is a cheater to begin with, the loose fabric makes it easy to hide the few hits that do break.
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Old June 21st, 09:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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very nice very true and xxxfirexxx i think u might have something about newbies wanting to be "snipers" because they are pussies and dont want to get hit
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I miss my long ass sticky. I used titles and made them bold! And I had italics in the intro! But a good replacement, nonetheless.
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