[outlaner_0990]

*****THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A WHICH IS BETTER THREAD, NO ARGUING OR FLAMING******

I've seen many threads lately of what gun to get. Inevitably Spyder Clones and Tippmans are some of the first guns to come up. People always say Tippmans if you play woods and Spyder clones if you play speed. AND I'M SO TIRED OF THIS MISINFORMATION.

Spyders are very reliable guns, don't require much taking care of. They are accurate, fast (if electronic), and are one of the most well working guns for the price out there. They are also VERY durable. Think about it, I always here people say that you can drop a Tippy off of a building and it will work fine. But think about this: what can you actually brake on a spyder besides a plastic feedneck elbow that costs $2? You could likely throw it off of a building too (although I wouldn't advise this with any gun) without damaging it. It's made out of aluminum and plastic, just like Tippys.

Tippmans are also reliable, and they take slightly less care to keep in good condition, but not a signifigant amount less. They are made out of the same materials of spyders, and therefore, are just as durable. They are accurate, fast (if electric or R/T) and are also a well working gun, only a very little more expensive than a blowback. True, they are larger than spyders, but most people can still play fairly tight on a speedball field with it, I know I can. And the same goes for woods, you can play tightly. As for weight, Tippies are a little heavier, but this won't really matter to most new players, and very few experienced players still use these 2 markers.

In conclusion, both Spyder clones and Tippmans are excellent starter guns for speedball or woodsball, regardless of what somepeople say.

As for which is better, that's up to the user and what they do to upgrade them. I personally believe that Spyders have more upgrades avaliable and they are most certainly cheaper. They will also preform about the same, so I would always go with the spyder. That decision, however, is up to you.

Of course, I doubt this article will do any good, so please disregard the previous statements.

[bmxfreak927]

nice job outlaner.that ought to clear up any questions about tippys and spyders.

[outlaner_0990]

thanks, i'm hoping this will cut down on some of those threads, and clear up the misinformantion.

[aTrain2k7]

This was helpful, thanks!

[Alpha]

Sticky.

[outlaner_0990]

i don't know about that, because you must remeber, no one ever reads the stickies. i think we should just bump it up a lot unless a mod really thinks it needs one.

[Alpha]

I actually started writing a guide like this.. I reviewed 5 beginner guns. An Imagination(), a PMI Eforce 2k4, a 98 Custom, a phantom, and a cheap cocker.. I only got around to the first three though

[outlaner_0990]

this isn't so much a review as trying to clear up the misconceptions of the applications of tippmans and spyders.

[outlaner_0990]

gotta push this up.

[themainevent]

Originally Posted by Alpha

a phantom,

i have never seen a new player with a phantom, most are like "those are expensive pumps, im gonna get this electronic full auto spyder instead"

most people who own phantoms are hard core stock class players, and thats usually all they play.

[Javaman]

I've always thought the reliability issue between the two was rather silly. They all (along with EVERY other PB marker) have parts that will wear out like internal O-rings and also have the same weaknesses to damage from impact with either the hopper breaking off or the airline leaking/breaking off.

[outlaner_0990]

between these two, they are quite alike in reliablility, and, oh yeah,

up.

[Jamo_asleep]

yay someone wrote what ive been putting off. i think about this all the time when a "Which gun is better" thread pops up, im like : please someone write something explaining this ****

[outlaner_0990]

bump

[Badinflewinse]

Nice job with this outlaner. I never knew you could drop a spyder or tippman off a building and still have it in good condition. Might have to put this to the test sometime.

[Gray Fox]

very good job, this might deserve a sticky 0?

[outlaner_0990]

the stickies go unread. i'd like to just keep bumping up to the top for a while, then perhaps a sticky.

and, badinflewins, i wouldn't suggest you drop ANY marker off of a building, i just said that they'd... preform similarly in that test.

[Gray Fox]

^what are you talking about, me and my imp go sky diveing, drop it once and it was fine...although some assembly was aquried after words

[outlaner_0990]

like I said, i'd advise against doing this. that is just stupid to add extra abuse to a marker like that.

[Gray Fox]

^yea i was only kiddin, to all the newbies, treat your marker like it was your own child, it has feeling's to. droping it will only result in bolt damage