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October 6th, 10:29 PM
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How to conserve CO2 when removing tank
I noticed that when I remove the CO2 tank, a lot of co2 comes out and I can't spin the tank off fast enough so more comes out...is there any way I can try to conserve that or am I pretty much out of luck because it doesn't have a turn off valve?
Is it ok to leave the co2 attached to the gun and leave it while it is filled, or is that too much pressure on the gun?
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October 6th, 10:35 PM
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when you think the co2 is gonna come out like that shoot the gun right then and then it shouldnt
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October 6th, 11:22 PM
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The air that bursts out of the ASA when you unscrew the tank is in fact air that is already inside the marker (in macro/powertube/LPR, etc.)
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October 6th, 11:40 PM
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I think that the first response is better, probably more accurate.
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October 7th, 12:00 AM
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the burst of co2 comes from the air that is already in the gun's firing system, and cannot be gotten back unless you use it (firing gun.. etc...) the burst of air is completely normal and only uses up a few shots, yes it shounds like a lot is coming out, but not really... dont leave the tank attached to the gun if you're not using it, because it'll end up compressing your springs and such, and then you'll need to turn your velocity up because the springs are compressed and you wouldnt be getting ful power from it.. just take the tank off let the air flow out, and dont leave the tank on the gun.. simple as that..
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October 7th, 03:22 AM
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tip: if you dont want to deal with that, remove all your paint or tip your gun upside down(under the assumption you are not useing a force feed) then when there is no paint in the chamber, dryfire while twisting off, it makes it easier to twist. also, just but a dropforward and on.off for cheap used if you can afford it, usually when you start paintballing you dont want to dedicate alot of money into the gun/sport just yet cause you dont know if its going to be like roller blade hockey, being just a phase, but if you want to some day do tourney, you need to get good gear, like me, i have a timmy sitting behind me on the floor with compressed air and soon to have an evolution II with y board. but dont go making the decision know, actually dont mentally or verbally make a decision at all, let your body decide f you want to continue and go with it.
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October 7th, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hchammer
I think that the first response is better, probably more accurate.
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Nope, the second is right.
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October 7th, 06:19 PM
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not to mention if you did shoot at that same second there would still be CO2 coming out, it would just be in a different place; ie. the barrell instead of the back.
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October 7th, 06:27 PM
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when ur hopper is emty, unscrew it about 3/4 of the way and shoot until it farts. if it doesnt fart in like 5 shots, then unscrew it more and fire till it farts. dont leave the CO2 on unless u have an on/off switch.
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October 7th, 07:31 PM
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Since this is the newbie forum, NEVER SHOOT YOUR GUN WHILE UNSCREWING YOUR TANK. THis is a major cause of accidents.
To asnwer the original question, yes, it is Co2 that is IN THE GUN, not that tank, and can not be saved safely. Its only a few shots worth anyway. On/Off valves are availible, but these won't safely save those couple of waste shots either.
Also, you should NEVER leave your tank attached to your gun when it is charged. It can eventually damage the gun, but more importantly, it is a HUGE safety issue.
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October 7th, 07:31 PM
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dont shoot when you are unscrewing, just let the air come out and you will be fine
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October 7th, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NoDoz
The air that bursts out of the ASA when you unscrew the tank is in fact air that is already inside the marker (in macro/powertube/LPR, etc.)
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I think tihs responce is better.
The POOF of air you hear is not air form your tank. The air is comming from your bottomline, and any of the air fittings adn hoses and reserves up before your valve.
==  Valve)
[]________<========>
=== =Air chamber
[] = foregrip
___ = bottomline
<====> = tank
The air in te air chamber, botomline and foregrip escapes when you shoot. IF your running a high pressure marker, your only losing about a shot.
If you have a guage connected to your air system (not on your tank) You'll notice it takes a few seconds to refresh (on low end guns). Your not wasting much.
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October 7th, 09:51 PM
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Or buy an on/off drop/uni-mount. That way you just unscrew the knob and let all the air out of the gun yourself.
But when you are unscrewing a tank, the valve pin is pressed in. When unscrewing the valve pin slowly shoots back up, and no more co2 will enter the marker. But co2 is still in your marker so it goes out of the hole in the ASA.
Also sounds like if you aren't getting it off quick enough, try oiling your o-rings.
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October 7th, 11:26 PM
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Dont worry about the air coming out,chances are that if that air were used in a game that the paintballs that little bit of air shoots wont hit anyone,soo in a way it is saving you some balls.
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October 8th, 04:32 PM
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The air that bursts out of the ASA when you unscrew the tank is in fact air that is already inside the marker
coodnt have said it better my self
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October 8th, 05:20 PM
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Also, you should NEVER leave your tank attached to your gun when it is charged. It can eventually damage the gun, but more importantly, it is a HUGE safety issue.
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What do you mean by when the gun is "charged"?
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October 8th, 05:35 PM
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cocked, I do believe.
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October 8th, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HP_lovecraft
Since this is the newbie forum, NEVER SHOOT YOUR GUN WHILE UNSCREWING YOUR TANK. THis is a major cause of accidents.
To asnwer the original question, yes, it is Co2 that is IN THE GUN, not that tank, and can not be saved safely. Its only a few shots worth anyway. On/Off valves are availible, but these won't safely save those couple of waste shots either.
Also, you should NEVER leave your tank attached to your gun when it is charged. It can eventually damage the gun, but more importantly, it is a HUGE safety issue.
Nick
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absolutely correct
the gas is in your gun, and don't mess around with compressed gas at all
that's where most people get seriously hurt in paint ball, not actually playing, but the compressed gas
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October 9th, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha
cocked, I do believe.
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But isn't it always cocked (after you pull it back) when you have the tank attatched?
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October 10th, 09:27 AM
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But isn't it always cocked (after you pull it back) when you have the tank attatched?
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Sure... but when I said "charged" I meant that the tank still has pressure in it.
Uncocking the gun is a great safety measure, but its also a cause of accidents.
When you uncock your blowback, you push a ball into the chamber. So, when you remove your paint and hoppe, there is still a ball in the barrel!!
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